Жжош!

[temcat.livejournal.com]

Could some fellow Russian please explain to me the exact meaning of the verb "жечь" as used in the Russian blogspeak (usually grossly and deliberately misspelt, like for example "жжош" instead of "жжёшь")? I suppose this is some kind of positive characteristic. Is it related to the phrase "глаголом жечь сердца людей" by A. S . Pushkin? I believe this can also be interesting for Russian students reading blogs kept by native Russian speakers.

[Update: PLEASE, PLEASE refrain from further posting on this topic. There is already a lot of garbage here, and I regret that I started the whole thing.]

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[shellesie.livejournal.com]

Yes, it's a kind of approval. But please, don't use it, it'a awful and silly imho :-\ I don't think that it's related to Pushkin, but who knows, who knows...

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[temcat.livejournal.com]

I don't :-) But I want to understand it, because it bugs me when I don't know the meaning of a commonly used word when I'm Russian myself :-)

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[kalaus.livejournal.com]

Encouragement and approval. "Жжош" and more here:
Blogspeak dictionary:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/shoo_/218401.html

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[ob-ivan.livejournal.com]

it does have meaning. don't misguide non-native speakers

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[shalapanova.livejournal.com]

The initial idea was that this was a form of slang verb "зажигать" with expressly incorrect orthography.

Зажигать (when you speak about smb's creative) means that the persion created something admirable.

BTW, maybe Pushkin's poem leads to this slang meaning.

Maybe someone can explain better. :-)

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[uncle-becher.livejournal.com]

even if there is a relation to Pushkin it is very very distant. basically жжош! stands for extremely positive impression. Related to зажигать (to have good time) -- another modern slang but not web-specific.

Here is a funny but yet more-less adequate dictionary to the modern net-slang, see if it helps: http://www.livejournal.com/users/shoo_/218401.html

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[g0mez.livejournal.com]

One of the meanings the verb "зажигать (http://www.gramota.ru/dic/search.php?word=%E7%E0%E6%E8%E3%E0%F2%FC&efr=x)" has is "воодушевлять" (to inspire). "Жжёшь" is a slang version for "зажигаешь". So one can say it is related to Pushkin :)

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[clandestin.livejournal.com]

Holy crap. It is not related to Pushkin. Stop it.
It is related to Lukianenko, and the expression became popular after his 'night patrol' (ночной дозор).

(frozen) Аффтар жжот!

[samogon.livejournal.com]

Пешы исчо!

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[lobanov.livejournal.com]

Смотри, не напейся йаду :))

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[mtyukanov.livejournal.com]

Etymologically speaking, it is indeed some sort of an allusion to Puskin mixed with another slang item "зажигать", to have lots of fun, as in "зажигали вчера в клубе не по-детски", "басист, зажигай!", etc., similar to 'to rave', but without specific reference to acid-house music. It's quite possible to зажигать being drunk on vodka with heavy metal blaring.

As of deliberately garbled spelling, compare it with English 'kewl' for 'cool'. Basically it's the same -- some use misspellings to mark their statements as ironic, some catch the wave and use such an 'alternative spelling' simply because it's kewl and it's жжот.

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[hound-lancer.livejournal.com]

A good article in Russian about the creation of the blog here http://www.newsru.com/russia/17may2005/afftor.html

the link in above comments is rather a joke than a true reference.

On the whole this vocabulary is considered uncultured and can be recommended in limited number of occasions for stylistic purposes.

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[hound-lancer.livejournal.com]

The basic principle for word formation is phonetic writing.

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[ob-ivan.livejournal.com]

i would say that the basic principle is on-purpose misspelling, even if it doesn't correspond to reading. e.g. we don't really pronounce double ц in reflexive verbs' endings like in "пишецца"

[clandestin.livejournal.com]

Это зачот нах!
Учи албанский.

[oryx_and_crake]

I wanted to ask you to provide an English translation, as we usually do here when people post in Russian, but then went "hm..." :-)

For the sake of our readers, and to avoid breaking the rules of the community, could you provide an explanation of these expressions? In English. Thanks in advance.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_smarty/]

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[clandestin.livejournal.com]

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[some-noise.livejournal.com]

смешно, да )

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[oryx_and_crake]

In English, please :-)

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[notscenenough.livejournal.com]

only retards use that word

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[http://users.livejournal.com/_smarty/]

Yep! And loosers.

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[rottenshworz.livejournal.com]

Closest english analogue to "новойаз" is an "da orkz spik" from Games Workshop "Warhammer 40 000" universe.
Distorted words, which can be understood by native speakers, but untranslatable with machine or vocabulary translation.
This is just a low-life slang, after all.

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[ob-ivan.livejournal.com]

За low-life ответишь!

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[night1ngale.livejournal.com]

Hm... So if I was writing books and used my real second name - "Solov'yov'... Would you say that I'm a big fan of Han Solo? :))

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[http://users.livejournal.com/_smarty/]

Exactly. Aren't you?

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[shepik.livejournal.com]

As far as I know, the story of the word "жжот" started from FIDONET, from conferences SU.MUSIC.HEAVY&DEATH and SU.KASHENKO.LOCAL (named by famous psichiatric clinic which has name of Kashenko).
In first of them, a non-existing music group appeared there, which has a parodic name "АЦЦКАЯ СОТОНА" (correct form in Russian: "Адский сатана", it means "Satan from hell"). And in SU.KASHENKO.LOCAL in all humourous situations, its creators were called "АЦЦКИЙ СОТОНА". Of cource, Satan has to burn everything - "жечь". And following the tradition of the conference, correct form "жжёт" transformed into form "жжОт" or "жжот", to stress metaphorical meaning of the word.

The story of many other words, like "аффтар", "Пейсатель", "йад" et cetera.

(sorry for my english)

(frozen) OK, guys & gals,

[temcat.livejournal.com]

I do somehow regret that I started this topic. Could we please just stop it. There are already quite a lot of on-topic references posted.

(frozen) Re: OK, guys & gals,

[http://users.livejournal.com/_smarty/]

Are you anti-semit?

[cincinnat.livejournal.com]

"жжош" means sth like "you really kick ass"... kinda...

[yk4ever.livejournal.com]

omg, comments are horrible mess indeed ...
there's a lot of unhealthy hype around "novoyaz"

there's a simple translation:
"жжош" is a miswritten "зажигаешь", which means "you rock"

So,
"жжош!" = "U rok!"
"афтар жжот!" = "autha rox!"
and so on

[sim-sim88.livejournal.com]

афтар жжот! зачот!

[sim-sim88.livejournal.com]

А, совсем забыл.
Первый, нах!

[morifaire.livejournal.com]

*readin' the thread* Oh my... %)
"ЗачОт!"? that's it. %)

[morifaire.livejournal.com]

Hehe:) Almost forgot, too - второйнах, и ниибет! ;))))