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taosu.livejournal.comI wonder if the issue of мат had been viewed here before. I don't think there aren't any learners of Russian who are interested in this... or maybe it would be against the rules of this community? Oh, I don't know.
May. 17th, 2005
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MAT part 0.
May. 17th, 2005 06:54 pmtaosu.livejournal.comOkay, now I'll try to answer all comments to my previous post with one shot. I didn't have any intention to «provoke» the members of this community to discuss MAT or something. I just thought that
MAT generally means abusive language that's usually banned from printing. Lexically MAT covers the following areas:
The usage of MAT is officially banned from printing, it can't be used by public people, e.g. politicans and celebrities. Of course, there are exceptions like Valdimir Zhirinovski, the leader of Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia (well, actually he became famous because of his... mmm... language) or singer Filipp Kirkorov who using MAT insulted a female reporter last year. Mat is considered a hooliganism, the user of MAT is punished according to clause #158 of the Administrative Code of Russian Federation but you understand that it's impossibe to enforce that law. Of course, nobody would talk using MAT to a militiaman or boss because this can cause problems but many people (especially men, teenagers, criminals, army) do so towards their peers or subordinates. MAT in presence of woman is considered intolerable but some women also use it widely.
The very interesting thing about it IMHO is that Russian MAT is unique in some way — one can express everything (really everything) using nothing but words of MAT.
Next time: MAT part 1: General vocabulary.
Please leave your comments and questions — this will help us decide if this issue is really worth discussing or we should stop.
- This issue would be very interesting for non-native speakers because there are no books that you can learn this from (perhaps, I didn't happen to find any yet);
- MAT is a very important (IMHO) part of Russian language, culture and tradition;
- I thought that MAT might have been previously discussed here because of 1 and 2 and asked if this was true;
- It seems that there weren't any discussions about MAT so I'm pleased to start one (of course, if Mr. Moderator is okay with this);
- I understand Mr. Moderator's concern about my intentions but I want to discuss Russian MAT in a strictly linguistic way.
MAT generally means abusive language that's usually banned from printing. Lexically MAT covers the following areas:
- insulting words;
- words related to parts of human body and sexual interaction
- usually pointless, parasitive usage of these words in speech just in order to amplify it.
The usage of MAT is officially banned from printing, it can't be used by public people, e.g. politicans and celebrities. Of course, there are exceptions like Valdimir Zhirinovski, the leader of Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia (well, actually he became famous because of his... mmm... language) or singer Filipp Kirkorov who using MAT insulted a female reporter last year. Mat is considered a hooliganism, the user of MAT is punished according to clause #158 of the Administrative Code of Russian Federation but you understand that it's impossibe to enforce that law. Of course, nobody would talk using MAT to a militiaman or boss because this can cause problems but many people (especially men, teenagers, criminals, army) do so towards their peers or subordinates. MAT in presence of woman is considered intolerable but some women also use it widely.
The very interesting thing about it IMHO is that Russian MAT is unique in some way — one can express everything (really everything) using nothing but words of MAT.
Next time: MAT part 1: General vocabulary.
Please leave your comments and questions — this will help us decide if this issue is really worth discussing or we should stop.
MAT part 1: General vocabulary.
May. 17th, 2005 09:37 pmtaosu.livejournal.comThank you everybody very much for your support! I really appreciate it!
In the previous post I forgot to mention one fact. Hardcore criminials (зеки) don't use MAT because they have their own slang (феня) which is probably more complex than MAT itself. Sometimes people who are not familiar with феня can hardly understand what those criminals are speaking about. The usage of MAT in criminal society is considered as an ignorance of their language and laws so criminals don't like when somebody uses MAT in their presence. But let us return to the original topic.
( General vocabulary )
In the previous post I forgot to mention one fact. Hardcore criminials (зеки) don't use MAT because they have their own slang (феня) which is probably more complex than MAT itself. Sometimes people who are not familiar with феня can hardly understand what those criminals are speaking about. The usage of MAT in criminal society is considered as an ignorance of their language and laws so criminals don't like when somebody uses MAT in their presence. But let us return to the original topic.
( General vocabulary )
помощь (help)
May. 17th, 2005 11:17 pmaclarar.livejournal.comскажите, пожалуиста. где харошие акцентировет? (Could you please answer, where the right accent goes?)
Материалы и оборудование.
Введение.
Характеристики икон.
Обратная перспектива.
Время в иконе.
Свет в иконе.
Как писали иконы.
Открытие иконы в XX веке.
Иконостас
Иконы Спасителя.
спасибо (thanks)
Материалы и оборудование.
Введение.
Характеристики икон.
Обратная перспектива.
Время в иконе.
Свет в иконе.
Как писали иконы.
Открытие иконы в XX веке.
Иконостас
Иконы Спасителя.
спасибо (thanks)
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