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[tania-otvagina.livejournal.com]

Hello! I really have need for help of native-speakers (English) to compare Russian and English words. I suppose that Russian word 'utro' has not absolutely similar to 'morning'. We use 'utro', when we are talking about time approximately from 4 a.m till 11 a.m. We use 'den' from 12 a.m. (12 chasov dn'a - it is proof) till 3 p.m and 'vecher' from 4 p.m till 10 p.m., 'noch' from 11 p.m till 3 p.m (it is approximately, because sometimes we can say '11 chasov vechera' etc). So, I wanted to ask you about similar rule in English.
PS I'm awfully sorry, it doesn't suits for the aim of community, but, I hope, my question is useful for English learners of Russian too.

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[kerinda.livejournal.com]

We use morning from about 5 am until noon. We use afternoon from noon until around 5 pm, and evening from 5-10 pm-ish. We use night from 10 pm until approximately 5 am the next day. This is how we've used it all my life, and I'm aware that it's not "correct", but colloquially it is correct.

Hope this helps!

[omi-nya.livejournal.com]

You're mistaken in 1 thing - *utro* - when Russian people wakes up:))

[tania-otvagina.livejournal.com]

For example, 'поезд приходит в 3 часа утра'. I meant something like this.

[miconazole.livejournal.com]

In English we also say things like "3 in the morning" to distinguish it from 3 in the afternoon. But we don't really consider 3am morning! :))

PS - am goes from midnight to noon, and pm is noon to midnight. 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. So about half the am hours are night, and half the pm hours are day.

[ex-forest-l.livejournal.com]

You guys say 'one o'clock in the morning' too. That sounds really weird for a Russian ear. :)

[omi-nya.livejournal.com]

I know:) just kiddin' )

[dp-maxime.livejournal.com]

No, it's you missing it with "завтра" (tomorrow), - tomorrow will begin when you wake up. :)

[omi-nya.livejournal.com]

Nope:)
When you wake up its "morning" "утро", "tomorrow" - when you wake up again,next time:)))

[tania-otvagina.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much, it was what I need. So, your message was sent at 3:42 p.m. As I have understood that you will say that now it is night, because it is dark and you don't sleep. Am I right?

[tania-otvagina.livejournal.com]

O, I'm sorry, I have confused 3 p.m and 3 a.m:)

[tania-otvagina.livejournal.com]

And one more question, please. What words do a.m and p.m mean? I've heard it is 'after midnight' and 'post meridium', but I'm not sure that it is correct.

[eavanmoore.livejournal.com]

AM = ante meridiem ("before midday")
PM = post meridiem ("after midday")

[cassandraclue.livejournal.com]

i would say
early morning/night--midnight to sunrise. like, you would not say one o clock at night--you say one a clock in the morning, although it is also considered night. confusing yes, but it's the way it's said.
morning is until 12 noon
12 noon-18:00 is afternoon
18-21 is evening (i would say 10 is night, not evening) you can say "at night" for any of these though.
10-12 is only night.

[cassandraclue.livejournal.com]

i mean, 20-0 is only night. should stop switching between 24hr and 12hr time :)

[tania-otvagina.livejournal.com]

One more question, please. When Russian TV programmes begin in the night, it begin with words 'Dobroy hochi" (like 'Dobroe utro'). But when somebody goes to bed, people say him 'Spokojnoj nochi'. Is there something similar in English?

[miconazole.livejournal.com]

1. Am and pm stand for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem". They're Latin for "before noon" and "after noon".

2. In English you only say "good night" if you're parting, or if the person you're talking to is going to bed. So if you meet someone at night you always say "good evening", even if it's midnight.

[cassandraclue.livejournal.com]

you can say
"good night" when someone is going to sleep, or "sweet dreams." also, you can simply say "night."

news programs begin with good evening in the us--i don't know what they say on late night news shows because i don't watch them.

i think in english that while good morning is common, good day/good evening are only used in formal situations, i.e. business situations or news programs.

SPASIBO!!!

[tania-otvagina.livejournal.com]

Ogromnoe spasibo vsem za pomosch! Thank you very much for your help!:)

[firebottle.livejournal.com]

0:00-3:59 ночь
4:00-11:59 утро
12:00-16:59 день
17:00-23:59 вечер

[ksp24.livejournal.com]

Perfect!

[oryx_and_crake]

This is really an offtopic for this community. This time I guess it is too late to do anything about this but next time you have a similar question please go to ru_learnenglish.