Владеть язык как родной или как родным?

[maceochi.livejournal.com]

Hi,

Is it correct to say:
«Доля людей, владеющих русским языком как родной»
or
«Доля людей, владеющих русским языком как родным»?
In other words, does the instrumental verb extend beyond the как?

Спасибо in advance!

UPD: как родным seems to be correct. Thanks to everyone who answered! It is not a question, by the way, just a statement.

Comments

[gemelo.livejournal.com]

Correct - Доля людей, владеющих русским языком как родным...

[maceochi.livejournal.com]

Thanks a million.

[adenalinka.livejournal.com]

Доля людей, владеющих русским языком как родным

[maceochi.livejournal.com]

Great, thanks.

[mike-dan.livejournal.com]

It is a question?
if yes, then better: "Какова доля, .... как родным?"

[pigmeich.livejournal.com]

Ooh. I say you can easily help yourself. «Как» usualy means interchangeable, and in you case «родным» is short for «родным языком». So you can transform the sentence into «Доля людей владеющих родным языком/родной язык» and listen to what it sounds.

[marnava.livejournal.com]

If it's a statement we say: "Доля людей, владеющим русским языком как родным."
It's official.
Alternative speakable (nearly informal) version: "доля людей, для которых русский родной."
If it's a question: "какова доля людей, владеющих русским, как родным?"
sometimes you can reduсe "русский язык" to "русский". but I think It's obvious )))

[yozhevich.livejournal.com]

In dependent clauses, the case government of the main clause remains. It gives you necessary information, and can often be distinctive. For example:

Муж любит компьютер больше, чем меня! My husband loves (his) computer more than (he loves) me!
Here 'I' is the (accusative) object of love.
Вряд ли кто-то их любит больше, чем я. There is hardly anyone who loves them more than I (do).
(Translation approximate :) Here 'I' is the (nominative) subject of love.

Given the ambiguities of 'case' forms in English, I think there would be a tendency to include the verbal phrase again, as in the first example; or 'do', which serves as sort of a verbal placeholder, in the second. So Russian is arguably more efficient in this regard! :)

[oryx_and_crake]

Thank you for your contribution. Please note that the working language of this community is English. It is OK to occasionally post in Russian, but then you are expected to provide a translation. Please see the community rules.

[oryx_and_crake]

By my estimate, of the 3500 members of the community at least 2000 are native Russian speakers. Don't impersonate Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya and don't make me ban you (I will if I have to).

[oryx_and_crake]

Very funny.