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learn_russianHi ! Could someone explain me the meaning and the origin of the following words and expressions:
"Киса куку"
"Демшиза"
In Russian it would be better.
Thank you in advance!
"Киса куку"
"Демшиза"
In Russian it would be better.
Thank you in advance!
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Date: 2005-09-18 03:35 pm (UTC)Lost in translation
Date: 2005-09-18 03:45 pm (UTC)But what's the meaning and the origin?
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Date: 2005-09-18 03:50 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-09-18 03:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 03:57 pm (UTC)если человек небольшого ума и ему нечего сказать, просто пишут одну из этих фраз. а если лень писать - то можно просто вставить печать - http://rulezman.multik.org/
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Date: 2005-09-19 09:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 04:02 pm (UTC)"Куку" is how cuckoo sings in Russian. You also say this if you suddenly appear in front of somebody to surprise him/her, or when somebody/something disappears. You can also use тютю in the last meaning : "А денежки-то мои куку / тютю!" means "My money said goodbye to me!"
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Date: 2005-09-18 04:09 pm (UTC)"Киса" means "cat" in children's language and is used as "sweetheart" or "honey" between lovers or by parents to call their children. It is however, less erotic than "sweetheart", so I do not no exact equivalent. One of two main characters in the famous novel "12 chairs" by Ilf and Petrov is named "Киса" to stress his infantilism.
"Куку" - means "here I am" and is used when somebody appears suddently and want to underline it.
So, altogether it should be like "Here I am, honey!"
"Демшиза"
"Дем" - comes from "демократия" - democracy. In modern Russia "демократ"(the adherent of democracy, nothing to do with the Democrat in American sence) is often a derogative, a legacy of Eltsin's "democratic" rule.
"шиза" - originates from "шизофрения" (schizophrenia), but means something much more mild, it is an odd or essentric inclination. For example, "Он классный чувак, но у него есть шиза -слушает какого-то Моцарта" - "He is cool guy, but with a dogdy habit - he listens to some Mozart" :)).
So, "демшиза" is an odd inclination to have democratic and liberal values.
Both phrases are informal, but not too much
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Date: 2005-09-20 03:52 am (UTC)---
You have NO IDEA ...
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Date: 2005-09-18 04:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 04:12 pm (UTC)You're a Russian native-speaker, so what is the point?
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Date: 2005-09-18 04:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 08:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 08:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-19 06:42 pm (UTC)Do you happen to have some russian.. (?background/relatives?, not sure about that) корни?
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Date: 2005-09-19 07:05 pm (UTC)Yes, I sometimes think in Russian. But on the other hand I will always be a Frenchie, I fell it in a specially acute way when I'm in Russia.
I have no Russian origins, Russian is my third foreign language (after English and Spanish), I began to learn it only when I was 15. But it soon became a exclusive passion. Now I regularly go to Moscow (and other places in Russia) and I have plenty of Russian friends (boy- included ;-) ).
So I must warn people here - learning Russian is VERY dangerous, you now when you begin, but you never now how far away it can take you :-)...
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Date: 2005-09-18 04:30 pm (UTC)Re: Reply to the screened comment
Date: 2005-09-18 10:26 pm (UTC)не верю
Date: 2005-09-18 04:34 pm (UTC)Что до деталей этимологии, я их тоже не знаю. Хотя я - найтив, абсолютли найтив.
Re: не верю
Date: 2005-09-18 04:53 pm (UTC)Mr Yogurt дал отличную ссылку, всем рекомендую.
The point is that speaking and teaching Russian is my job and the Big Deal of my life, the only thing I know. And I've been leaving 3 years in Moscow. Etymology and slang are mostly of scientific interest too.
Mr Yogurt give a wonderful link, I recommand it to those who want to learn specific LJ Russian.
Thank you everybody! Nice job! Тема Кисы полностью раскрыта ;-)
Re: не верю
Date: 2005-09-18 07:29 pm (UTC)Отвечу, но в своем ЖЖ, или в Вашем. Здесь это оффтопик.
I think the discussion is getting offtopic.
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Date: 2005-09-18 04:48 pm (UTC)(frozen) no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 04:54 pm (UTC)(frozen) no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 04:57 pm (UTC)(frozen) no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 05:15 pm (UTC)Where to ask about this expressions if not here, anyway? Even some native speakers may not know their meaning...
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Date: 2005-09-18 05:43 pm (UTC)And there's such communities as pishu_pravilno, ru_slang and ru_translate.
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Date: 2005-09-18 06:57 pm (UTC)You're free to explain that it's slang and you don't like it, but don't attack people for asking questions like this again. You may think it's just "stupid LJ slang", but others (who actually think it's worth knowing the language inside and out) will find posts like this interesting.
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Date: 2005-09-18 09:54 pm (UTC)I was about to warn you that you should be really proficent in Russian to understand it fully, but you already proved that you are =)
"Киса куку" is used to tell the opponent that he doesn't understand a thing, and that he is just stupid and unworthy as an adversary.
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Date: 2005-09-18 10:23 pm (UTC)By the way someone gave me also the source for "демшиза":
Демшиза
15 мая 1992 года
пресса
Константин Боровой, президент Российской товарно-сырьевой биржи
В мае 1992 года президент Российской товарно-сырьевой биржи Константин Боровой рассказал в интервью "Независимой газете" о новой Партии экономической свободы, которую он возглавил. На вопрос корреспондента "У вашей партии уже есть персональные предложения по составу кабинета?" Боровой ответил: "Да нет, что вы, мы же адекватные, мы реальность воспринимаем. Мы же не демшиза какая-нибудь, чтобы требовать на митингах такого-то назначить, а такого-то убрать..."
Словарь русского публичного языка конца XX века
Коммерсант-ВЛАСТЬ, 23 июня, 22 сентября 2003 года
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