...were discussed here or in our sister-city community
russian_wotd recently, so I decided to put them together.
1. When Russians drink their vodka, they lift their glasses and say "На здоровье".
In fact, "на здоровье" is how you reply to "спасибо" (thank you,) especially if you, say, feed your guests or members of your family and they say "thank you" when they finish their meals. Literally it means "for [your] health," Russians say it when English speakers say "you're welcome."
"На здоровье" is NOT a toast. The poplular Russian toasts closest to it are "будем здоровы" (let's be healthy) or "за ваше здоровье" (for your health.)
Discussed here, thanks
noser for mentioning that.
2. There is a Russian proverb that says "In the kingdom of hope, there is no winter".
In fact, there is no such proverb. Russian proverbs are numerous, and some can be really funny or wise, but this one does not exist.
Discussed here, thanks
ericschnabel for mentioning that.
3. Russians have the word "razbliuto" (разблюто,) which means something along the lines of "a feeling a person has for someone he or she once loved but no longer feels the same way about."
In fact, there is no such word, and not even a hint where the one who made it up has got it
Discussed here, thanks
ladybirdsleeps for mentioning that.
4. Russians have no word for freedom.
In fact, there are at least two words for freedom in Russian - свобода and воля (the adjectives are свободный / F. свободная, N. свободное and вольный / F. вольная, N. вольное.)
Again, thanks
ladybirdsleeps for mentioning that here - I haven't heard this myth before.
UPDATE:
5. Russians call each other "comrade".
In fact, there is no such word in Russian language. It is an English word, which is a nice translation for Russian товарищ. As such, it is widely used in Hollywood movies (with no explanation that this is the translation of the actual Russian word.) And yes, during the Soviet era (approx. 1918-1991) most Russians would use this salutation (товарищ), especially in formal, official settings.
Discussed here, mentioned by
gera.
6. Russian women wear kerciefs or shawls on their heards, and the word for those shawls is "babushka".
Actually, Russian word бабушка (NOT babushka!) means "granny", "grandma." It has nothing to do with head-covering kerchiefs which Russian women used to wear hundreds of years ago - in remote villages, until almost recently. The Russian word for a kerchief is платок, for a shawl - шаль. Most of women in Russian cities don't wear those kerchiefs anymore; the only chance to see it is on very, very old women -- grandmas, that is -- probably that's why Americans call those kerchiefs "grannies," or "babushkas."
UPD:
the babushkas (accent on the first syllable means the women; on the second, the scarf)
In fact, neither of those meanings is true: there is no word "babUshka" meaning "the scarf" in Russian language; "the women" in Russian is "женщины"; бабушка (accent on the first syllable) means "grandma" or "granny," with the secondary, colloquial meaning "any old woman."
7. "У нас нет спиртного" (we don't serve alcohol, or, more literally, we have no alcohol; спиртное - a word for alcohol as a type of consumable goods) can be interpreted as a word-play on "spirits - spiritual"; "we have no alcohol" or "we have nothing spiritual".
Actually, since "spiritual" in Russian is "духовный m. / духовная f. / духовное n.," this word-play is impossible in Russian (unlike English.)
Discussed here, mentioned by
serialcondition.
Any more myths? ;-)
1. When Russians drink their vodka, they lift their glasses and say "На здоровье".
In fact, "на здоровье" is how you reply to "спасибо" (thank you,) especially if you, say, feed your guests or members of your family and they say "thank you" when they finish their meals. Literally it means "for [your] health," Russians say it when English speakers say "you're welcome."
"На здоровье" is NOT a toast. The poplular Russian toasts closest to it are "будем здоровы" (let's be healthy) or "за ваше здоровье" (for your health.)
Discussed here, thanks
2. There is a Russian proverb that says "In the kingdom of hope, there is no winter".
In fact, there is no such proverb. Russian proverbs are numerous, and some can be really funny or wise, but this one does not exist.
Discussed here, thanks
3. Russians have the word "razbliuto" (разблюто,) which means something along the lines of "a feeling a person has for someone he or she once loved but no longer feels the same way about."
In fact, there is no such word, and not even a hint where the one who made it up has got it
Discussed here, thanks
4. Russians have no word for freedom.
In fact, there are at least two words for freedom in Russian - свобода and воля (the adjectives are свободный / F. свободная, N. свободное and вольный / F. вольная, N. вольное.)
Again, thanks
UPDATE:
5. Russians call each other "comrade".
In fact, there is no such word in Russian language. It is an English word, which is a nice translation for Russian товарищ. As such, it is widely used in Hollywood movies (with no explanation that this is the translation of the actual Russian word.) And yes, during the Soviet era (approx. 1918-1991) most Russians would use this salutation (товарищ), especially in formal, official settings.
Discussed here, mentioned by
6. Russian women wear kerciefs or shawls on their heards, and the word for those shawls is "babushka".
Actually, Russian word бабушка (NOT babushka!) means "granny", "grandma." It has nothing to do with head-covering kerchiefs which Russian women used to wear hundreds of years ago - in remote villages, until almost recently. The Russian word for a kerchief is платок, for a shawl - шаль. Most of women in Russian cities don't wear those kerchiefs anymore; the only chance to see it is on very, very old women -- grandmas, that is -- probably that's why Americans call those kerchiefs "grannies," or "babushkas."
UPD:
the babushkas (accent on the first syllable means the women; on the second, the scarf)
(Psychology Today, May-June, 1992)
In fact, neither of those meanings is true: there is no word "babUshka" meaning "the scarf" in Russian language; "the women" in Russian is "женщины"; бабушка (accent on the first syllable) means "grandma" or "granny," with the secondary, colloquial meaning "any old woman."
7. "У нас нет спиртного" (we don't serve alcohol, or, more literally, we have no alcohol; спиртное - a word for alcohol as a type of consumable goods) can be interpreted as a word-play on "spirits - spiritual"; "we have no alcohol" or "we have nothing spiritual".
Actually, since "spiritual" in Russian is "духовный m. / духовная f. / духовное n.," this word-play is impossible in Russian (unlike English.)
Discussed here, mentioned by
Any more myths? ;-)
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Date: 2005-04-23 02:27 pm (UTC)Also, a few times I've seen people make a big deal out of the fact that "mir" can mean either "world" or "peasant commune", as if this reveals something deeply interesting about the Russian psyche. (I'm actually not sure if it CAN mean "peasant commune", because I've never come across it used that way. Lingvo lists it as a peasants community's meeting.)
Strangely, they didn't mention that "mir" can also mean "peace", which makes me think they're parroting something that they read in a book. Who wouldn't know about the "peace" meaning before the "peasant commune" one? It's not as if peasant communes come up often in Russian textbooks or grammars.
One of the sillier notions I've come across is that Russian is a Germanic language. I thought this was limited to my mom, but I've heard it more than once. ("No, Mom." "Well, what's a Germanic language then?" "Umm ... GERMAN, FOR STARTERS.") I'm not sure that this counts as a myth, though, since it seems more like a really bad guess.
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Date: 2005-04-23 02:41 pm (UTC)The trick was that Tolstoy's book was entitled "Война и мiръ" - "The War And The World," not "War and Peace"! (The impact that the orthography reform made on this title, and on many other things, has been discussed on Gramota.ru (http://www.gramota.ru/diktant.html?id=25), though their article is for quite advanced learners.)
As for the word "мiръ" with the meaning "peasant commune," the Bolshevik reforms not only annihilated the difference between "мiръ" and "миръ" (both words became "мир"), they also disintegrated the peasant communes per se. And when there were no peasant communes any more, that meaning of the word "мир" disappeared pretty soon.
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Date: 2005-04-23 04:08 pm (UTC)http://english.mn.ru/english/issue.php?2004-30-22
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Date: 2005-04-23 06:27 pm (UTC)OMG OMG OMG. How long was the chain of misinterprations in this case, or did the guy simply invent this claim for the sake of the argument (the text dates back to 1985)?
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Date: 2005-04-23 08:11 pm (UTC)Yet this one isn't the worst.
>It is this obscure forest principality, Vladimir-Suzdal, or Suzdalia, that is the ancestor of modern Russia.
Oh crap. I would dearly love to look into that Dr. Jack Wheeler's eyes one day. Such a great specialist in history and languages must have had some especially precious thick slice of wisdom I would love him to share with me.
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Date: 2005-04-24 07:30 am (UTC)За присутствующих здесь дам - usually said by a man
Two of my favourite are -
"Прощай, крыша, встретимся завтра" (or "прощай, разум..." :)) - as a first toast at the party
and "Чтобы у нас все было и ничего потом за это не было"
More often a russian toast is not just a phrase, but a short (or not very short:) story with some conclusion. You can read a lot of them for example here (http://toast.woweb.ru/).
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Date: 2005-04-23 11:08 pm (UTC)We have discussed this one either here or at linguaphiles (I forgot where) recently.
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Date: 2005-04-25 10:40 am (UTC)On the other hand, many foreign people are pretty much shocked by the way Russian tend to "pack": when standing in line, in metro.
Russians, especially elder people, sometime can say, for example: "Oh, why aren't you marry yet? You should!" or "Why doesn't your family have kids? Health problems? Yes, they just don't have this idea at all.
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Date: 2005-04-25 05:39 pm (UTC)Please speak for yourself :))) Needless generaliztions can insult people.
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Date: 2008-05-21 02:53 pm (UTC)http://oneproverb.net/bwfolder/russianbw.html
but some are real