[identity profile] nordprod.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian

Господа иностранцы!
Интересно, чем вас привлекает русский язык, русская культура? Как вы пришли к изучению russian language? Полезно ли на Западе знать русский язык?
Буду благодарен, если ответите по-русски, хоть и транслитом. Заранее thank you.

Date: 2004-09-27 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/philadelphia_/
наверное все-таки вопрос нужно было написать на английском языке...

Date: 2004-09-28 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mooze.livejournal.com
Dude, you kinda remind me of Rev. Volk-off... Don't be such a nag and if you suggest writing a question in English, you shoulda written a reply in English in the first place, or at least translated it underneath the original phrase.... No offense...
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Date: 2004-09-27 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mihailova.livejournal.com
I am awfully sorry but I'd like to comment. May I?
Your Russian is good enought for us to understand you. But our language is so difficult. Would you like any native speaker to correct you text? :)

Date: 2004-09-28 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mooze.livejournal.com
Tried to refrain from commenting on the love of the Russians to correct foreign speakers any time they can, but couldn't.

Dear Ms. Mihailova, in my straightforward opinion it is not very polite to hint that one does not speak a foreign language perfectly, or, more precisely, to downgrade one's language capacity by saying that one's language is "good enough for us to understand you". It implies somethind rather discouraging, doesn't it? And what do you mean by "ANY native speaker"? Should it be read as "A native speaker", i.e. you, instead? I believe that Chetrieth gave an answer to a question asked, she did not make a request to proof her reply.

On a different note, I found at least one typo or spelling mistake and three to four grammatical errors in your rather short post. Wouldn't it be best to first concentrate on self-proofing before offering such services to others?

Date: 2004-09-28 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] avysk
Oh, you are strange. For example, I appreciate any corrections from native speakers (especially in a community like learn_english). The Russian text above is understandable but it sounds like "Beginning, I wanted talking by language which knows a bit..."

Date: 2004-09-28 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mihailova.livejournal.com
well... thank you for your answer.

I know VERY well that my english is not perfect, so I like and even often ask native speakers to correct my mistakes. I think it helps me. So I would be glad if you point the mistakes which you'd found in my comments.

May be my comment was not polite, I am sorry for it, I didn't want to offend Chetrieth or anobody else.

Date: 2004-09-28 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vladon.livejournal.com
May I correct you a little? :)


Сначала, я хотела говорить язык, который немного знает, и, к сожалению, в Америке школьники изучают русский язык редко.


"Сначала [no comma] я хотела говорить на языке, который немногие знают, но, к сожалению, в Америке школьники изучают русский язык редко." (better: "..., в Америке школьники редко изучают русский язык.", i.e. adverb "редко" better to be placed before the verb "изучают")


Потом, конечно, русский язык сам заинтересовал мне, и я продолжала изучать его в университете.


"Потом, конечно, русский язык сам заинтересовал меня, и я продолжила изучать его в университете."


По-моему, на Западе всегда полезно знать любой иностранный язык. Полезно знать русские язык и культуру потому, что, хотя холодная война окончилась, Запад и Россия ещё должны улучшать свои отношения.


it's better to say "Полезно знать русский язык и культуру, [comma] потому [no comma] что, хотя холодная война и окончилась, ..."


Как может делать так, если люди с Запада не понимают русских и их культуру?


"Как такое может быть, что люди [no "с"] Запада .."

Date: 2004-09-28 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yk4ever.livejournal.com
> Как может делать так, если люди с Запада не понимают русских и их культуру?
> "Как такое может быть, что люди [no "с"] Запада .."

Ты неправ. "Как такое может быть" = "How could it be". А она сказала:

"How can this be done, if people from the West don’t understand Russians and their culture?"

Соответственно, адекватный перевод: "А как же этого добиться, если люди с Запада не понимают русских и их культуру?"

Date: 2004-09-28 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
>Не знаю, можно ли здесь разговаривать по-русски без перевода

This isn't the case when "you may" do something or "you may not." When we (the maintainers) say that one is expected to provide an English translation, it's only because this is simply polite. Not all members are THAT fluent in Russian. As for me, I am pretty sure that one can master a language only by diving pretty deep into it, but the majority here thinks that only asking the others for translation every now&zen helps mightily. This is what we call democracy, isn't it? ;-))))
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Date: 2004-09-28 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mooze.livejournal.com
For some unexplained reason, almost every Russian feels obliged to correct a foreigner speaking or writing Russian. Don't pay attention to that, your Russian is great. There are scores and scores of Russians who couldn't write in Russian like you can. Keep the faith!:))))

Date: 2004-09-28 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gelishan.livejournal.com
--maybe this is stupid of me, but what's wrong with people correcting your Russian if there's something incorrect about it? People tend not to correct my Chinese because it's understandable, and I know I love it when they do because I can get better. (My Russian is on the level of... someone who's been studying Russian for 4 weeks, so obviously I'm not ready to be corrected yet.)

Date: 2004-09-30 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martens.livejournal.com
"Потом, конечно, русский язык сам заинтересовал меня, и я продолжила изучать его в университете."
В конце концов русский язык заинтересовал меня и я продолжила изучение в университете.
Лучше - нет?

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