[identity profile] upthera44.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
What are the differences in usage between кушать и есть?  

Date: 2012-01-25 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alamar.livejournal.com
Language etiquette manuals have to stay on the safe side. In the field, e.g. when you go to lunch with your colleagues every day, you'll very soon run out of your vocabulary, and start using all sorts of weird words to describe the process. Or you'll be a very boring people indeed, who says "Пойдёмте обедать" every workday for many years.

Date: 2012-01-25 07:49 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
>>Or you'll be a very boring people indeed, who says "Пойдёмте обедать"
I'd rather be that than some kind of stupid sickly sweet dummy who addresses his coworkers as if they were small children.

>>and start using all sorts of weird words to describe the process
Isn't this exactly what you propose with кушать?

Date: 2012-01-25 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alamar.livejournal.com
I've figured already that you prefer to stay on the boring side.

However, what I wanted to point out, it's bad when you use "uneducated" to slap a some kind of linguistic behavior, which while sometimes correlating with some dialectal boundaries, have no relation whatsoever to the actual level of education.

Please don't use "uneducated" for anything other than asserting someone's formal education, because this both confuses people on the meaning of "education" and lets you to try and force people to take your (boring, as we've figured out) point of view on the subject.

I was mildly offended, and it's not even that I use "кушать" a lot.

Date: 2012-01-25 11:13 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
It is not just my point of view, as I have proved with multiple links to authoritative sources. Sorry, I don't see the point of continuing this argument. You are very welcome to go on speaking as you do. Just don't try to convnce others that this is standard accepted Russian.

Date: 2012-01-26 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alamar.livejournal.com
I wasn't trying to. My point was that it has nothing to do with educated/uneducated.

"Ложить" is uneducated. "Кушать" isn't.

Date: 2012-01-26 09:32 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
Sure, sure, you know better than Rosenthal. gramota.ru and Wikipedia put together. Let's stop this meaningless discussion.

Date: 2012-01-26 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alamar.livejournal.com
Yeah, perhaps not worse than you interpreting rosental, gramota.ru and wikipedia.

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