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[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

How would you recommend me to pronounce the word дождь?

I learnt in school that Mocovites say [дожьжь], (but there is noway I'm gonna pronounce it like that. I'll never say [пожьжье] either... it just feels very akward)

That peterburgers say [дошш]

But now I heard a new variant in a song: [дошть]

I really rather like the last one... Can I use it in speech?

Comments

[master-yourself.livejournal.com]

Я гоаорю [дошть], [пожже]

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

then I will too!

[surkova.livejournal.com]

I say either дошть or дощь

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

a but you are moskovite :-).
Ooops, nobody says дошш? maybe they taught us that peterburgers say Дощь.

[gulaby.livejournal.com]

Yes, sure you can use the last one. I prefer this variant too. But it is not an academic pronunciation.

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

spasibo!

[viata.livejournal.com]

For the record, it's rather [дощ] than [дожьжь], due to devocalisation.

And yes, [дошть] will do fine :>

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

a, thanks!

[mrmeloman.livejournal.com]

All my friends and I use [дошть]. I remember that is's the rightest way to speak

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

spasibo!

[emperor-spock.livejournal.com]

/дошть/, /пожжэ/. /Дожьжь/, /дошш/ sound super-weird to me.

[dair-spb.livejournal.com]

+1

[mithrilian.livejournal.com]

I've never heard дошшш, and I suspect дожьжь is going out of use, albeit slowly. Дожьжь was used during Soviet times on TV and the radio, especially the radio. They had very strict rules not allowing for local variations.

So, personally, I think дошть is perfectly acceptable and has always been so (during the latter part of the XX century, at least) in normal speech.

[orrine.livejournal.com]

Most people say [дошть]. For me [дожьжь] is somewhat local pronounsation.

[greenboot.livejournal.com]

http://music.yandex.ru/#/track/2780207/album/298239

[surkova.livejournal.com]

the service is not available outside Russia

[racoonbear.livejournal.com]

My wife (she is from Omsk) says "дошть", and I say something between it and "дождь", closer to "дождь".

[khanuka.livejournal.com]

There's no [дош]!
Both [дощ] and [дошть] are OK. [дощ] sounds a bit old fashioned, though.

[karakal.livejournal.com]

Most people around me pronounce дошть - in St. Petersburg, Moscow and even in the Crimea, Ukraine.

[karakal.livejournal.com]

examples:

http://www.piter.fm/artist/аквариум/song_703904 (first two lines; Grebenshchikov is a St. Petersburg-based singer/songwriter)

http://megalyrics.ru/lyric/алиса/дождь.htm
(video is below ads on the page; Kinchev is also based in St. Petersburg, but he was born and raised in Moscow)

moscovite

[chaosmalefic.livejournal.com]

[дощь] and [дождь]. depends on my mood

Re: moscovite

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

;-) and you say "пожьжье" aswell?

[alamar.livejournal.com]

In russian, you can always pronounce any word as it is written when in doubt.

It might sound funny, but is never wrong. After all, it's written that way! :)
The only remaining haunting thing is where to stress some long words.

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

:-) pronouncing them as they are spelt is easy in theory, but in practice it can be hard....

[ushastyj-zver.livejournal.com]

You were taught a little bit the wrong way.
The Moscow standard has always been [дощщ'] (for nominative case), but [дожж'и], [дожж'а], etc. It's impossible to pronounce [дожж'] separately, it would just go against the major rule of Russian pronounciation (we read "друг" as [друк], "флаг" as [флак], etc.).
The Petersburg standard (which is actually the standard for the Russian language in general since the middle of the 20th century, the old Moscow standard is used in Moscow and sometimes in the theatres, despite their real whereabouts) has always been [дошть].

[ushastyj-zver.livejournal.com]

And [пожже], rarely smth. like [позже]. [Ж] can't be softened in standard Russiun, [ж'] may be used either by a well-educated, but old Moscovite, or by a dialect speaker.

[marsianka-selma.livejournal.com]

[дошть] is perfectly normal. And it's very Moskow-ish to pronounce [дощщ] :)

[o-jovem-louco.livejournal.com]

I do pronounce [došť], but [poźźi].

[oryx_and_crake]

дожж is so-called старомосковская норма. For example, Akhmatova rhymes "дожди" with "плащи", and Tsvetaeva - "дождь" with "рощ".

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

Thank you!

[mousex.livejournal.com]

(offtopic) you made my day :)))

[scolar.livejournal.com]

I'm a Moscovite, and I pronounce "дошть", "д о/а ш/ж ди".

[amariz.livejournal.com]

[дощь] and [пожьже] - currently it's a very high style of Russian language. This pronunciation is typical only for actors, singers and TV/radio journalists specializing on theatre, classical music or art.
If you hear this in real life it means that the speaker is a very well-educated person (and most likely native Muscovite).
All other people pronounce these words like [дошть] and [позже]. And it's surely better pronunciation for a foreigner - nobody will expect you to speak like an actor of the Maly theatre ;)

[cubaki.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty surprised to hear that Moscovites say [дожьжь]. I wonder which school you visited.

The most logical way is to pronounce it like дошть. The last дь sound turns into ть (due to natural reduction at the end of the word). That means that we have something like дожть. But in Russian voiced and voiceless consonants can hardly go together which means that ж turns into ш as ть influences it and makes it voiceless.

As for дощ - that's an old type of pronunciation still used by some people.

[kys.livejournal.com]

If you are able to do it, дошть, дождь (with every sound voiced) or дожть are perfectly natural. It's just that people don't often say it in real life cause it's demanding phonetically.