Ошибки в Голливудских фильмах

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

Please watch the trailer till the end, there is a dialogue in Russian.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Do you know better/worse examples of 'Russians' in Hollywood movies (in terms of language)?
2. Do they employ consultants for every foreign language to be dealt with or not?

UPD

Красная жара:

И еще тут:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkE9Mx3elaQ

Comments

[surasure.livejournal.com]

there's a pretty convincing russian flowershop owner in six feet under =)

yeah, sounds like they ran out of normal russians there in hollywood, had no one to ask an advice from, huh?

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

Apparently Savely Kramarov was the last one (see the last link in the update)

[adenalinka.livejournal.com]

"Red Heat" movie

[elwen-tindomiel.livejournal.com]

I think this is one of the best examples of Hollywood's attitude to russian language :)

film - The Bourne Identity

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

WOW!
Thanks for sharing))))

[elwen-tindomiel.livejournal.com]

There are lots of them, but I suppose this is the best known

[turu.livejournal.com]

How about "his" Russian language in that movie, btw ?

[elwen-tindomiel.livejournal.com]

actually, I don't remember, watched it so long ago

[adenalinka.livejournal.com]

:D That is great!

[acuzena.livejournal.com]

Uuuuuuuuuuu:(((

[surasure.livejournal.com]

right, this is top stuff =)

[spiritrc.livejournal.com]

Wow! How cute! The poor idiots seem to really believe that switching keyboard layout should place cyrillic equivalents under each latin letter. I was that naive when I was like 5 years old.

P.S. Ashf Lshtshfum is a marvelous "Russian" name! LOL! :)

[aodh.livejournal.com]

I haven't seen it for some time, but I don't remember being too impressed with the Russian spoken in "Red Dawn."

I did think the Russian in "The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming" was pretty good.

[uncle-gora.livejournal.com]

I would consider that the Russian speaking dead guy from the first Hellboy is the worst example by far. The thing about him, thought, is that the filmmakers were no even trying to use real words; they just made it sound like Russian.
If we look just at "real Russian" monologs I would have to say that the first Tomb Raider (about "кратера метеора") should take the prize.
The second prize takes "The Boondock saints". They do have Russian speaking actors, but the monologues still make no sense.
I feel that "The sum of all fears" deserves special mentioning. Ciarán Hinds did an excellent job, and even thought his Russian is far from perfect, I appreciate the effort. This movie is also pretty unique as it makes distinction between Russian and Ukrainian.

also

[uncle-gora.livejournal.com]

Arnold's classic "Red Heat" goes without mentioning. :)

[wordchick.livejournal.com]

I think it's not Hollywood, but "Eastern Promises" made that distinction as well. The Russian accents sounded inauthentic to me, but I don't have a native's ear.

[colonelrabin.livejournal.com]

I suppose, "Na sdorovye" from "Doctor Zhivago" still remains a classic :)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Yeah. This is how the entire word got convinced that this was exactly the most common Russian toast :)

RRRRRR!!!!

[colonelrabin.livejournal.com]

The whole Germany knows it and remains completely sure that it's correct.

Re: RRRRRR!!!!

[nemica.livejournal.com]

Thanks to Polacks.

[rasovsky.livejournal.com]

very funny )

[heilkitty-ru.livejournal.com]

1. Only Russian native speakers are speaking well in Hollywood movies (AFAIK).
2. I highly doubt they do it for Russian language. Generally, "Russians" in American movies are done badly, much worse than English speaking people in Russian movies.

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

2. Why such injustice I wonder))

[lysdanslavallee.livejournal.com]

I'm russian, but I can't understand what does arnold say in the third video )))

[surkova.livejournal.com]

He said "Удачи тебе. До свидания."

[lysdanslavallee.livejournal.com]

no, in third video, that is linked.

[surkova.livejournal.com]

hmm, to me it's clear apart from the last phrase :)

[gllazz.livejournal.com]

As far as i know, Hollywood's 'russkies' always speak heavily accented (and usually grammatically incorrect)Russian. There are very few exceptions. E.g. Russian barmen from Casablanca (1942), general from the 'Lord of war' (2005) and soviet partisans from the 'Defiance' (2008). May be, the explanation is that the actors were Russians. I don't know if any English or American can play a role of russian without looking silly.

there are some more…

[lenny-goofoff.livejournal.com]

in ATHF cartoon (1st season, 17th episode, "Mail Order Bride")
Karl's Russian wife speaks with genuine Moscow accent!

[surkova.livejournal.com]

I can add just this post: http://replikator.livejournal.com/257094.html
Enjoy! =)

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

прелестно) спасибо)

[dinasty.livejournal.com]

The girl in the last Indiana Jones movie - Cate Blanchett. She has such an accent, that I was almost unable to understand her and had to read subtitles :)

[spiritrc.livejournal.com]

+1. It was absolutely awful. Interesting that other not-so-important characters were native Russians and spoke Russian fine. If I was making that movie I wouldn't let Cate Blanchett speak Russian at all. I would make her mute if it was an absolute must that she was to play the role. :)

[tlkh.livejournal.com]

From Fantastic Four:

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

фантастика!!)))
наверное списывали с руского перевода инструкции к китайским стелькам))

[kolldun.livejournal.com]

OMG

[spiritrc.livejournal.com]

Does anybody know what they intended to say? I can't imagine what "головка пальца ноги" may mean. :)

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

I'm telling you, I'm sure they copied it from the instruction to the Chinese insoles)))
check it out:
http://i.vladnews.ru/f/7752/600.05628feae2d753ffc09b10803dc9d202.jpg

[arashi-opera.livejournal.com]

The last movie with "Russians" I can think of was The Golden Compass, and everything was pretty good in there. The "Russian" guards in the North Pole all spoke excellent Russian (the English subtitles often provided quite an inexact translation, by the way). Guess the situation is improving little by little. :)

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

you are giving us hope)

[crimeanelf.livejournal.com]

Do you only accept movies? How about computer games?

Half-Life 2:

this will do as well

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

a wonderful example, thank you

Russian accented English and some Russian

[wordchick.livejournal.com]

I can't vouch for any of these, but this article (http://www.readrussia.com/magazine/fall-2007/00040/) gives its own take on fake (and real) Russians in cinema. Also, Eastern Promises, which was a British film, sounded okay to this non-Russian ear.

Re: Russian accented English and some Russian

[goluboglazaya.livejournal.com]

Thanks for sharing!
The article seems very interesting and useful.
You are the first non-native speaker to comment on the topic so far (as far as I know). What I'm indignant about is not really the accent, as it's difficult to master, but the impending errors, which could be easily eradicated had the film directors employed decent consultants.