[identity profile] goluboglazaya.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian


Please watch the trailer till the end, there is a dialogue in Russian.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Do you know better/worse examples of 'Russians' in Hollywood movies (in terms of language)?
2. Do they employ consultants for every foreign language to be dealt with or not?

UPD

Красная жара:





И еще тут:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkE9Mx3elaQ

Date: 2009-06-19 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surasure.livejournal.com
there's a pretty convincing russian flowershop owner in six feet under =)

yeah, sounds like they ran out of normal russians there in hollywood, had no one to ask an advice from, huh?

Date: 2009-06-19 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenalinka.livejournal.com
"Red Heat" movie

Date: 2009-06-19 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elwen-tindomiel.livejournal.com
I think this is one of the best examples of Hollywood's attitude to russian language :)
Image
film - The Bourne Identity

Date: 2009-06-19 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elwen-tindomiel.livejournal.com
There are lots of them, but I suppose this is the best known

Date: 2009-06-19 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenalinka.livejournal.com
:D That is great!

Date: 2009-06-19 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aodh.livejournal.com
I haven't seen it for some time, but I don't remember being too impressed with the Russian spoken in "Red Dawn."

I did think the Russian in "The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming" was pretty good.

Date: 2009-06-19 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uncle-gora.livejournal.com
I would consider that the Russian speaking dead guy from the first Hellboy is the worst example by far. The thing about him, thought, is that the filmmakers were no even trying to use real words; they just made it sound like Russian.
If we look just at "real Russian" monologs I would have to say that the first Tomb Raider (about "кратера метеора") should take the prize.
The second prize takes "The Boondock saints". They do have Russian speaking actors, but the monologues still make no sense.
I feel that "The sum of all fears" deserves special mentioning. Ciarán Hinds did an excellent job, and even thought his Russian is far from perfect, I appreciate the effort. This movie is also pretty unique as it makes distinction between Russian and Ukrainian.

also

Date: 2009-06-19 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uncle-gora.livejournal.com
Arnold's classic "Red Heat" goes without mentioning. :)

Date: 2009-06-19 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turu.livejournal.com
How about "his" Russian language in that movie, btw ?

Date: 2009-06-19 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colonelrabin.livejournal.com
I suppose, "Na sdorovye" from "Doctor Zhivago" still remains a classic :)

Date: 2009-06-19 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Yeah. This is how the entire word got convinced that this was exactly the most common Russian toast :)

Date: 2009-06-19 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rasovsky.livejournal.com
very funny )

RRRRRR!!!!

Date: 2009-06-19 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colonelrabin.livejournal.com
The whole Germany knows it and remains completely sure that it's correct.

Date: 2009-06-19 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heilkitty-ru.livejournal.com
1. Only Russian native speakers are speaking well in Hollywood movies (AFAIK).
2. I highly doubt they do it for Russian language. Generally, "Russians" in American movies are done badly, much worse than English speaking people in Russian movies.

Date: 2009-06-19 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysdanslavallee.livejournal.com
I'm russian, but I can't understand what does arnold say in the third video )))

Date: 2009-06-19 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gllazz.livejournal.com
As far as i know, Hollywood's 'russkies' always speak heavily accented (and usually grammatically incorrect)Russian. There are very few exceptions. E.g. Russian barmen from Casablanca (1942), general from the 'Lord of war' (2005) and soviet partisans from the 'Defiance' (2008). May be, the explanation is that the actors were Russians. I don't know if any English or American can play a role of russian without looking silly.

Date: 2009-06-19 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surkova.livejournal.com
He said "Удачи тебе. До свидания."

Date: 2009-06-19 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysdanslavallee.livejournal.com
no, in third video, that is linked.

Date: 2009-06-19 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surkova.livejournal.com
hmm, to me it's clear apart from the last phrase :)

Date: 2009-06-19 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surkova.livejournal.com
I can add just this post: http://replikator.livejournal.com/257094.html
Enjoy! =)

there are some more…

Date: 2009-06-19 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenny-goofoff.livejournal.com
in ATHF cartoon (1st season, 17th episode, "Mail Order Bride")
Karl's Russian wife speaks with genuine Moscow accent!

Date: 2009-06-19 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dinasty.livejournal.com
The girl in the last Indiana Jones movie - Cate Blanchett. She has such an accent, that I was almost unable to understand her and had to read subtitles :)

Date: 2009-06-19 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tlkh.livejournal.com
From Fantastic Four:
Image

Date: 2009-06-19 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acuzena.livejournal.com
Uuuuuuuuuuu:(((

Re: RRRRRR!!!!

Date: 2009-06-19 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nemica.livejournal.com
Thanks to Polacks.

Date: 2009-06-19 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surasure.livejournal.com
right, this is top stuff =)

Date: 2009-06-20 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arashi-opera.livejournal.com
The last movie with "Russians" I can think of was The Golden Compass, and everything was pretty good in there. The "Russian" guards in the North Pole all spoke excellent Russian (the English subtitles often provided quite an inexact translation, by the way). Guess the situation is improving little by little. :)

Date: 2009-06-20 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elwen-tindomiel.livejournal.com
actually, I don't remember, watched it so long ago

Date: 2009-06-21 01:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-21 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
Do you only accept movies? How about computer games?

Half-Life 2:

Image

Date: 2009-06-21 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordchick.livejournal.com
I think it's not Hollywood, but "Eastern Promises" made that distinction as well. The Russian accents sounded inauthentic to me, but I don't have a native's ear.

Russian accented English and some Russian

Date: 2009-06-21 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordchick.livejournal.com
I can't vouch for any of these, but this article (http://www.readrussia.com/magazine/fall-2007/00040/) gives its own take on fake (and real) Russians in cinema. Also, Eastern Promises, which was a British film, sounded okay to this non-Russian ear.

Date: 2009-06-26 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritrc.livejournal.com
Wow! How cute! The poor idiots seem to really believe that switching keyboard layout should place cyrillic equivalents under each latin letter. I was that naive when I was like 5 years old.

P.S. Ashf Lshtshfum is a marvelous "Russian" name! LOL! :)

Date: 2009-06-26 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritrc.livejournal.com
+1. It was absolutely awful. Interesting that other not-so-important characters were native Russians and spoke Russian fine. If I was making that movie I wouldn't let Cate Blanchett speak Russian at all. I would make her mute if it was an absolute must that she was to play the role. :)

Date: 2009-06-26 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritrc.livejournal.com
Does anybody know what they intended to say? I can't imagine what "головка пальца ноги" may mean. :)

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