лох ?

Jun. 19th, 2008 09:28 am
[identity profile] veronique-cheri.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
I was hanging with some Russians and a non-Russian and the non-Russian mentioned a Russian curse word he was taught by a friend (the only word he knows in russian haha). He said it was spelled upside down V, o and x. Which in Russian would be: лох. I'm pretty sure that's it at least. No one understood what he meant by the English letters, so I flipped them around to Russian to be that word and when I said it, the Russian boys said it meant something, like an idiot. What exactly does it mean?

Date: 2008-06-19 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bujik.livejournal.com
1. It is naive, simple, trustful person.

2. 1 + not reach person, utilized by others clever individuals.

Meaning is negative enough like looser, etc.

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Date: 2008-06-19 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natha1ie.livejournal.com
Initially this word goes from a criminal argo.

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Date: 2008-06-19 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heilkitty-ru.livejournal.com
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лох_(жаргон)

Date: 2008-06-19 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natha1ie.livejournal.com
Oh! So many words! ;-)

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Date: 2008-06-19 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bujik.livejournal.com
Yes! It is victim of criminal fraud! The best definition!

Date: 2008-06-19 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anc-q.livejournal.com
лох is
yobbo
sucker
douche (South Park )
shim

Date: 2008-06-19 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khathi.livejournal.com
It's, basically, just a loser, or, if you forgive me some Yiddish, shlimazl. ;) "Лох" is a guy who's not terribly bright, tend to lose in life, and to be exploited by others. The word itself comes from "феня" criminal argot, where it is basically interchangeable with "фраер".

Date: 2008-06-19 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krivoshey.livejournal.com
"Redneck" in some cases.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-beshenov.livejournal.com
As person from the lower middle class? I think that лох is not correct here.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krivoshey.livejournal.com
As a poor uneducated white farm worker, indeed.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-beshenov.livejournal.com
Ah! As in оделась, как лохушка :-) You're right (although it's a rare usage).

Date: 2008-06-19 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krivoshey.livejournal.com
"лошица"

Date: 2008-06-21 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brissen.livejournal.com
That's "быдло", I'd rather say.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-beshenov.livejournal.com
Лох is a loser or gawk. It's a word from thieves' cant (originally, лох maybe derived from old dialectal word), but now it's commonly used (colloquial).

A homonym of this word may be translated as "oleaster", but I guess it's not related to the former meaning.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-beshenov.livejournal.com
Лох is a potential victim of criminals.

Date: 2008-06-19 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 53miles.livejournal.com
I'd say "loser"

Date: 2008-06-19 04:29 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
It's not a curse word. It is slang, but not obscene.

Date: 2008-06-20 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordchick.livejournal.com
I don't want to argue with a native speaker, but when it was written on a blackboard at school, all my students said "ooooooooh."

Date: 2008-06-21 12:32 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
Are your students native Russian speakers? They might have had a thousand reasons to say "oooh", but лох is not a curse word.

Date: 2008-06-22 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordchick.livejournal.com
My students are native speakers of Surzhik- Russian with Ukrainian grammar and a lot of Ukrainian words.

Date: 2008-06-19 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gera.livejournal.com
Sucker.

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