[identity profile] bellezzarubata.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
I'm unclear as to when I should use certain cases.  This is my current understanding:


Accusative is used when you're talking about something/direct object, such as:

я хочу собаку
я вижу его


Genitive is used when you're talking about ownership, such as:

это его книгы
Is ownership (with special modifiers or more?) also applied to "зовут"? -- Её зовут _____.


And how does Dative apply to age if it's purpose is to explain an indirect object? I'm not making the corellation, sorry.

Date: 2008-03-06 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belacane.livejournal.com
you also have to remember that accusative case for nouns (and adjectives that describe them too) that move and breath (people, animals) which are the direct object looks exactly like the genitive.


Date: 2008-03-06 01:30 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
No, this cannot be right.

Accusative: Увидеть кого? моего хорошего папу, мой новый стол
Genitive: Нет кого? моего хорошего папы, моего нового стола

I think you are confused by the fact that for some INanimate nouns accusative form is identical to nominative (Я увидел стол vs. Стол стоит на кухне)

Date: 2008-03-06 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belacane.livejournal.com
your example is poor though, because, masculine nouns that have feminine endings like папа decline like feminine nouns but the modifiers decline like masculine.

I did forget an important detail though....

What i said in the above note does NOT apply to feminine animate nouns.

so modified:
you also have to remember that accusative case for MASCULINE, NEUTER AND PLURAL nouns (and adjectives that describe them too) that move and breath (people, animals) which are the direct object looks exactly like the genitive.

but what you said is true as well.

Date: 2008-03-06 01:51 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
I think you'd better operate with paradigms (склонения) than with genders here, because words like папа and дядя are masculine too.

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