[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_whiskeytears/ posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Which is a better sentence to use? Я любовь ты Овечки or Я люблю вас Овечки?

Date: 2006-03-02 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breqwas.livejournal.com
Hmm... :)
First one is almost senseless, but the second sounds, khm, a bit strange %) Could you write this sentence in English?

Date: 2006-03-02 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black--red.livejournal.com
Да, интересное предложение:)

Date: 2006-03-03 05:42 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
I have to remind that the working language of this community is English. It's OK to post in Russian occasionally but in this case you have to provide an English translation. Thank you.

Date: 2006-03-02 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black--red.livejournal.com
Я люблю вас Овечки

Date: 2006-03-02 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/tananda_/
Да, очень распространенное в русском языке предложение. Пастухи - поэтичные люди и любят и почитают подопечных.

Date: 2006-03-02 10:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-03-03 05:43 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
I have to remind that the working language of this community is English. It's OK to post in Russian occasionally but in this case you have to provide an English translation. Thank you.

Date: 2006-03-02 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llill.livejournal.com
Я люблю вас, овечки.
In russian you must use comma near addressing. Why did you capitalize Овечки?

Date: 2006-03-02 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordin.livejournal.com
You missed a letter, the last one. That's why everyone's confused.

Date: 2006-03-02 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordin.livejournal.com
The girl is a hockey fan. She meant Овечкин I guess. ;)

Date: 2006-03-02 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llill.livejournal.com
Then "Я люблю Вас, Овечкин." is right.
"Вас" must be capitalized, when you address to a single person.
And don`t forget about the comma.
It is also possible
"Я люлблю тебя, Овечкин."
And it is better to end the sentence with the exclamation sign.
You may trust me.

Date: 2006-03-02 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
>"Вас" must be capitalized, when you address to a single person

Not exactly; this only works as a rule in official and business correspondence.

Date: 2006-03-02 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordin.livejournal.com
1. Did you mean Овечкин (the hockey player) or овечки (sheeps)? ;) (I guess I know the answer)
2. First one should be "Я люблю тебя whatevertheobjectis"

If you're addressing a certain person, first is more suitable.

Date: 2006-03-02 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordin.livejournal.com
Then "Я люблю теб, Овечкин" and even better would be "Саша, я тебя люблю!" (Sasha is short for his name, you don't generally use a second name in such a case, and the word order is more Russian).

Date: 2006-03-02 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azulejos.livejournal.com
ooops, sorry, i didn't get it:

Я люблю тебя(вас - both are ok, but the second option is more formal), Овечкин!

Date: 2006-03-02 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azulejos.livejournal.com
the first one is absolutely incorrect :)

Date: 2006-03-02 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apollotiger.livejournal.com
To clarify:

«Я любовь ты» isn't correct because «любовь» is the noun “love” (i.e. “Love is beautiful” would be «любовь красива») and because «ты» is the subject form. It'd be akin to saying, “I affection1 she” instead of “I love her”.

1 I only chose the word “affection” because “love” is both a noun and a verb in English.

Date: 2006-03-03 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Почему ты исполнизовал "красива" и не "красивая"?

Date: 2006-03-03 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apollotiger.livejournal.com
I was taught that when using a predicate sentence (i.e. Love is beautiful), one ought to use the short form of the adjective. Is this incorrect?

Date: 2006-03-03 05:48 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
It's correct grammatically, but I would say "Любовь прекрасна" (just better style, I think)

Date: 2006-03-03 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apollotiger.livejournal.com
Okay. But it's correct to use the short form of the adjective in a predicate?

Date: 2006-03-03 05:55 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
Yes, definitely.

Date: 2006-03-03 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Not sure...which is why I'm inquiring.

Date: 2006-03-03 05:47 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
I suppose what you wanted to ask was
Почему ты использовал "красива", а не "красивая"?

исполнизовал is not a word, and you should use "а", not "и" here.

Date: 2006-03-03 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
I thought испольнизовать was "to use". I've never been corrected when I used it by native speakers.

Date: 2006-03-03 01:19 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
No, to use is использовать. You probably confused it with исполнить (to fulfil).

Date: 2006-03-03 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragoth.livejournal.com
Probably. Thanks.

Date: 2006-03-03 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mixturaverborum.livejournal.com
Мой друг разговаривал что овечки есть girls на русски слэнг.
Ты знал?

Date: 2006-03-03 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harmonoisit.livejournal.com
No, the slang for girls (one of) is "тёлки" (young cows), not "овечки".

Date: 2006-03-03 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sveta-ko.livejournal.com
you can say "овца" about a girl, but it's very rude.

Date: 2006-03-03 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
разговаривать means "to have a conversation" or "to talk", not "to say" or "to speak" (говорить imperf./ сказать perf.)

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