two completely unrelated questions

[lexabear.livejournal.com]

Are there phrases in Russian that people use all the time that are technically incorrect, but sound much more natural? I was thinking of the common English phrase "Me and Bob went somewhere," where "me and Bob" is technically incorrect, but what (most) people say casually anyway. In this case, saying it the correct way ("Bob and I") can sound stilted. Are there examples of this sort of thing in Russian?

In a completely unrelated, and much weirder, question -- has anyone read the Russian version of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series? I was thinking about the section where it talks about time travel and verb tense, and was wondering how that was translated.

Comments

[nemica.livejournal.com]

What about "упал, отжался" then?

[malaya-zemlya.livejournal.com]

It's an legal form of imperative, rather rude and colloquial but lingustically fine. I don't think even the most conservative grammarian would find fault with it.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Seconded. A rude colloquial form of imperative.

[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but for all purposes of students of Russian, it should be deemed illegal until we reach a certain age/level. Just like alcohol. Not that many people follow the rules anyway...

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

That's right, but those who aren't allowed to drink alcohol legally, do know that alcohol exists, nevertheless. This is the same story: предупреждён - значит вооружён (warned means armed,) the proverb says.