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[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

I just finished seeing Бриллиантовая Рука on DVD and had some questions for clarification:

Is saying "пошли/поехали" some sort of colloquial imperative?

Is "я сейчас" another form of saying "I'll be right back/be right there?"

What is "чёрт побери?"

In a chase scene, some cops kept on saying "седьмой," is that a form of S.O.S. or something police-ish? I'm sure that they weren't referring to any number or anything to be classified as a number.

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[inetman.livejournal.com]

Is "я сейчас" another form of saying "I'll be right back/be right there?"
Yes

What is "чёрт побери?"
'Damn it'

some cops kept on saying "седьмой," is that a form of S.O.S. or something police-ish?
It's just a code number of police unit.

[bohemienne.livejournal.com]

Is saying "пошли/поехали" some sort of colloquial imperative?

You've got it. It means you'd better hurry up and get going, because they needed you to be movin' on it yesterday.

Okay, so maybe not that urgently, but close. :)

[mooose.livejournal.com]

i don't get the use of пошли sometimes.
like once in moscow i got into a gypsy cab, and the guy said "пошли!"
in my mind i interpreted it as "let's go!" but i didn't understand why it was in the past tense...

maybe it's just one of those things i just have to absorb without thinking about the grammar behind it...

[gintaras.livejournal.com]

I cannot explain, but it's really so - we use the past tense. Can you explain me the expression "oh, boy!"? :-))

And sometimes "пошли" means "come on".

[mooose.livejournal.com]

well i also wanted to know what comes to mind when you say / hear "пошли". and why you would choose to say it instead of "Пойдем!"

the expression "oh boy!" would be a different kind of exclamation, with a different history. explaining that would be like trying to explain "молодец!"
i find "пошли" interesting cos it still has something to do with the action of going. just placed in the past tense. like it could have been reduced from something like "мы уже пошли" in a projected future to make sure the act of going does indeed happen.

ignore this post if this is too confusing... i'm a little tired today.

[gintaras.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes! I should guess earlier about it!

That's not the past tense, it's an imperative mood (повелительное наклонение).

[carminagitana.livejournal.com]

If you want a more literal association, "чёрт побери" literally means "the devil take it" which, as I know it, was (is?) an actual expression.

"я сейчас" CAN (and in this case does) mean "I'll be right back/there" but it could technically mean, "In a minute" as in "I'll do my homework in a minute" or whatever. Basically, it means "I will, in a moment" and the implied verb is whatever a person is asking you to do. You can also drop the я, and just say "сейчас". It's the same as, "in a sec," or "just a sec".

Hope I've helped a little, I'm new here :)

[yms.livejournal.com]

I just finished seeing Бриллиантовая Рука on DVD

Until you watch it forty times you can't feel yourself Russian ;)

[gintaras.livejournal.com]

And also "Ирония судьбы или С лёгким паром!"

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Add "Белое солнце пустыни," this is also mandatory :) I would also vote for "Джентльмены удачи," but this would be a little harder for a non-native, regarding all that (however mild al well-exlained) jail slang and Vassily Alibabayevich's broken Russian :)

[yms.livejournal.com]

and, of course, "Иван Васильевич меняет профессию" :)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

"Дер Цар унд Великий кнезе"? ;-)
Add "Берегись автомобиля" then. But it's a minor one, 12 times is quite enough :)

[kehlen-crow.livejournal.com]

And what are we here for? We could explain it all :)

[kehlen-crow.livejournal.com]

I watched "Pride and Prejudice" 20 or more times but it didn't help feeling English ;)

[freyja-freyja.livejournal.com]

Er, I thought that "to feel oneself" meant "to masturbate"...

[freyja-freyja.livejournal.com]

Did you watch it with Russian subtitles?

[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I had to. Otherwise I would have only understood 1/8th of it as opposed to the 1/3rd of it that I was able to understand. With the subtitles I was able to connect more what they were saying with the text. Why, is watching it with Russian subtitles bad?

[freyja-freyja.livejournal.com]

No, not at all, of course :) I try to see Norwegian movies with subtitles in Norwegian, cuz I can hardly understand when they speak fast.
I'm thinking about arranging Russian subtitled movies for some of my friends who learn Russian. Where did you take the subtitles, if it's not a secret?

[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

It's no secret at all! DVDs usually come with the option of subtitles, so that's how I got them.

[nefis.livejournal.com]

in my opinion all the films u've named r very difficult for people whose russian is not very-very-very good and it is really difficult to understand russian jokes as well (unless u r a native speaker)
anyway, it would be nice to see these films to get used to spoken russian

[kehlen-crow.livejournal.com]

I think there always is a chance you understand some of the jokes - and the more you see the more you understand :)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

You can't start swimming if you don't go to the water.

share your impressions with us

[jerom.livejournal.com]

Did you laugh? Have you a chance understand all jokes? Do you think, that it's too Soviet oriented comedy?

[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

As I said, I only had a chance to understand one third of what was written/said thanks to the subtitles in Russian, so I pieced together everything else (plus just watching what's going on one can know).

How does Soviet-oriented comedy differ from modern comedy?

And yeah, I laughed. But mostly at the slapstick stuff. When I did find something funny they would say, I smiled.

I have to watch it again though. My Russian teacher told me to retell her what I saw and I completely forgot about Симон Семёнов's name!

my top4 films

[jerom.livejournal.com]

Кин-Дза-Дза - comedy, fiction
Покровские ворота - farce, 1970
Офицеры - 1910-1950, military
Собачье сердце - fiction, Bulgakov