[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_viola/ posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Just a quick question... in a "который" clause, does "который" have to be in the same case as the noun it is referring to? What I mean is, does the appropriate case pass over the comma?

Date: 2005-03-11 12:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2005-03-11 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verushka.livejournal.com
It's not quite clear what you mean. We say человек, который смеётся... So человек refers to который through comma.

Date: 2005-03-11 12:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kutsuwamushi.livejournal.com
Short answer: no.

When you use который, you don't pay any attention to what case the noun was in the previous clause. You only pay attention to gender and number, because который agrees with the noun, like an adjective.

The case который is in is determined by its role in its clause. For example, "это книга, которую я покупила"--"которую" is in the accusative, although it's referring to "книга", which is in the nominative.

Date: 2005-03-11 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gdt.livejournal.com
>покупила
купила

Date: 2005-03-11 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malaya-zemlya.livejournal.com
который is a part of the subordinate clause and that's where it gets its case:

Революция (nom.), о которой (prep.) говорили большевики, свершилась.

Date: 2005-03-11 01:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kutsuwamushi.livejournal.com
Whoops. I always get mixed up on that one.

Date: 2005-03-11 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verushka.livejournal.com
yeah
you should change it too
человека, которого я видел
сумка, которую я купил

Date: 2005-03-11 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrumos.livejournal.com
malaya zemlya is right. take a look, we discussed this at length a few days ago in another post.

Date: 2005-03-11 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linnapaw.livejournal.com
No, it takes the case of however it is used *in the clause*. However, it must match the number and gender of the noun it is refering to.
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