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В поэме (стихотворении?) ощущается некоторая атмосфера натянутости.

Это был первый серьезный ответ искусства на революцию.

В поэзии символистов есть аллюзии на ...

What's better of all - rewrite the sentences in English, because I'm not really sure what you mean.

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Oh no! Is it really that hard to understand..?

1. The poet Balmont is remembered most for this
2.He said that this figure lived at a lower level of spirituality than God does
3. There is a general atmosphere of tension in the poem
4. It also marked their poetry as something new and different from what had gone before
5. It was the first serious artistic response to the Revolution
6. The poetry of the symbolists contained evocations and suggestions that gave a sense of some other reality

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песен и песенок

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>Это было первое модернистскОЕ движение
>Не в пример членами другИХ литературных движений

>за это вспоминается больше всего поэтy Константин Бальмонт -- impossible: I could not even understand what you wanted to say. Этим больше всего запомнился поэт Константин Бальмонт? По этому поводу прежде всего вспоминается поэт Константин Бальмонт? -- your more-than-random usage of cases prevents me from understanding, to be honest. Вспоминается поэту means that a poet remembers something.

>Он сказал, же она живёт в нижнем уровене одухотворённости чем Бог и

you cannot use же in this context if I get you right. He said THAT she...? then it's
Он сказал, ЧТО она живёт НА БОЛЕЕ НИЗКОМ УРОВНЕ одухотворённости, чем Бог и...
(not sure that I understand that either)

>Эсть (???) вообще атмосфера натянутости в поэми
Поэма in Russian is not a poem, it's an epic poem. If this is what you mean, then it's
В целом в поэме присутствует атмосфера натянутости.
If you meant just a poem, then it would be
В целом в стихотворении присутствует (OR ощущается) атмосфера натянутости.

>Это тоже ставило их поэзия в ряд чего-того разного из поэзий, которые написались до этого
Это также отличало их поэзию от произведений, созданных (OR написанных) до этого (BETTER: ранее).

>Это был первый серьёзный артистический ответ на революцию
Артистический in Russian means artist's, not artistic. Therefore
Это был первый серьёзный художественный ответ на революцию.

>поэзия символистов содержала вызвания и намеки, которые

Вызвания? No such word in Russian. Maybe just checking a dictionary would help? If you meant CHALLENGES, then it's вызовы (which doesn't sound completely Russian anyway, but if you leave it like поэзия символистов содержала вызовы и намеки, которые..., then it still sounds more or less satisfactory.

BTW it's a really advanced text :))

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Поэта Бальмонта больше всего помнят за это (стихотворение?) (но это как-то неуклюже, it sounds awkward,

Из поэзии Бальмонта наибольшую известность получило это ....

Он сказал, что этот образ существует на более низшем, по сравнению с Богом, духовном уровне.

В стихотворении чувствуется общая атмосфера напряженности. (Не натянутости, это другое значение. Натянутость means something artificial, false.

Тension is more close to suspense, right?)

Ушла в словарь за evocations.

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Thanks, that's very useful.

I can't believe I didn't notice that I put "же" in there. That's the Polish for "that".

Yes you're right, it's much too advanced for my level of Russian, as you can see! I hope they understand it. Thanks for your help :)

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Thanks, these are helpful suggestions. I hadn't realised I was using the wrong type of "tension". Thanks for pointing it out!

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I would translate "atmosphere of tension" как "атмосфера напряжения"
"Натянутость" - could be used if you fell something un-natural in the poem

Evocations was translated as "Вызвания", but I don't know the correct translation of this word

Во всём остальном полностью поддерживаю

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>Несколько их стихотворений написани в ритме народных песней и песенек

Несколько их стихотворений написанО (несколько написано - see?) в ритме народных песЕН и песенОк
(though I could not really see how poems might be written in rhythm - poetic metre is размер, not ритм)

(looks like you're really, really confused by similarities with Polish -- don't be: it's a VERY different language.)

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I don't know the English original, therefore I can only guess what this all is about.

Evocations is a hard case since there is no verb like "to evocate" in Russian. I would translate it as отсылки but again, I don't see the whole English prase and therefore can't rely on the context.

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"Более низшем" - it is illiterate. The correct form is "более низком".

6. Поэзия символистов содержала образы и намёки, дававшие ощущение какой-то иной реальности.

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>The weather and history are one

Погода и история - одно и то же? Again, no context = no good guess.

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not "вызовы" - "образы"

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Now I see. I've missed the context explanation part several comments up. Yes, if it's evocations then it's отсылки, образы, побуждения. No direct translation though, since there's no such word in Russian.

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Now I see. I've missed the context explanation part several comments up. Sorry about that.

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yes, sorry, four a.m.

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История как погода (в смысле - переменчива и непредсказуема?)

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0.1 Это было первое модернистскОЕ движение...

0.2 Не в пример ЧЛЕНАМ другИХ литературных движений,.. (that's if you want to say that the members of other organizations negatively differed from the ones you describe)

0.3 Несколько их стихотворений написанЫ (or написанО which, to my mind, sounds worse) в ритме народных ПЕСЕН и песенОК (probably, you meant not песенок, but ЧАСТУШЕК?)

1. Именно за это больше всего памятен поэт Константин Бальмонт.

2. Он сказал, что она живёт на более низком уровене одухотворённости, чем Бог, и...

3. В поэме (стихотворении) присутствует общая атмосфера напряжённости.

4. Это также выделило их поэзию как что-то новое и отличное от того, что было написано раньше.

5. Это был первый серьёзный ответ искусства на революцию. (Артистический means something passionate or with actor's skill, not something related to art. Generally, артист is not an artist, but an actor).

6. Поэзия символистов содержала образы и намеки, которые

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Он сказал, что она (этот образ) живет на низшем, по сравнению с Богом, спирическом уровне.

(думаю, что Богу духовный уровень ни к чему:)

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Thank you for the brainstorm. :) You see it's kind of difficult even for native speakers. So give us some more!

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Песенки - это, наверно, частушки?

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На столе стоит стакан
А в стакане Лилия.
Что ты смотришь на меня
Рожа крокодиляя.*

(*illeterate)

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Come on! Волков бояться - в лес не ходить. :)

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There is no such word as спирический in Russian, and if you meant to use спиритический, this is only used in a set phrase спиритический сеанс which means "a spirit-calling session ".

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Thanks! You're right, I have a total mix of languages in my head these days. I really need to do something about that!

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Maybe next time I'll post the whole text instead then!

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Thanks. That's a quote from Alexander Blok's diary, where he is referring to how he believes the weather has a great effect on historical events. Unfortunately, the book I read it in was in English and didn't source the original Russian quote, so I have been trying (with little success) to translate it back into Russian!

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Well perhaps they really are the same thing in Russian, but I was using "Песенки" as a possible equivalent to "ditties" in English. This is the problem with trying to translate directly, with a lack of cultural understanding! Thanks though :)

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I think that this is alright, especially regarding the fact that we're speaking Russian Symbolism here. Do not confuse people if you aren't really sure in what you say. I mean, please :)

There is no such word as "спирический" in Russian. Please do check a dictionary (if you happen to have one) before posting. I mean, pretty please, with sugar on top :))

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....If one decided to be a real smart-ass, he (or she) might also recall спиритуальный, though I'm not sure it would be any better than the plain boring (although correct) Russian духовный. There's no need to construct nonexistent words if there's plenty of existent ones, and no shortage in supply.... :)

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I honestly don't think that there is such word as спиритуальный. Are you sure it exists?

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Pretty sure. I have met it in Semyon Frank's works on philosophy. BTW it's been almost in the same time as Russian Symbolism (slightly later.) Anyway, that wasn't the point. The point was that I wanted to solidarize with you in this case :))

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What does it mean, then? (I am not trying to be nasty, just interested in all the words there are. Thanks in advance.)

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Well ... the point here is that духовный isn't boring, it's just not correct in this context: because this phrase means some hierarchy of spiritual beings.
like god, then .... spirits ... , not the quality of mind or sole - which духовный means, and it also does not mean religious - another meaning of духовный in Russian.

Спирический is wrong, you're right, there's word like спиритуалистический? Not sure, though. I'll look up in a moment.

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Что погода, что история ...

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