Q's..

Jul. 29th, 2004 05:28 pm
[identity profile] rimokon.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Okay, I always notice something weird when listening to Russian music...

1.) They pronounce <ы> like <и>. For example, ты sounds a lot like ти, but with the <т> not palatalized. I thought these sounds were distinct but I can't tell the difference when they're singing...

2.) I thought that when there was <ч> before a consonant, it's supposed to sound like <ш>...but I was listening to Zемфира's song "Анечка" and t.A.T.u.'s song "Белочка", and instead of the <ч> sounding like <ш>, it sounded more like English "ch". Does that make sense? Lol, either way, it sure didn't sound like <ш>..

3.) <ой> sounds more like <ай>...I'm not sure--is this correct? Or am I wrong? Lol.

Can someone try clearing this up for me? Thanks...it made me so confused lol..^^;;

Date: 2004-07-30 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aveleen.livejournal.com
How about "дьверь, зьверь, церьковь"? :) "Брыжж'ет" (soft ж), conjugation of II group verbs like "курют, стоют, водют" instead of "курят, стоят, водят"? Hard "c" in "Кувыркалса, причесалса, одевалса, смеялса"...

The -ива- suffix sounds like "ъвъ", as if you'd written "вздгагывать, оплакывать, размахывать" - with bases that end in г, к, х.

Also, my favorite of the old Moscow tradition:
Nominative masculine singular adjectives sound like Genitive feminine singular: "маленьк/а/й, хорошеньк/а/й, умненьк/а/й".

Date: 2004-07-30 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zjuzjuchka.livejournal.com
"дьверь, зьверь, церьковь" is wrong,leters befor "Ь" pronounce hard not soft and you should write these words without "ь"."Курют, стоют, водют" is wrong, "куришь","стоишь","водишь".But: "я курю,ты куришь,она курит,мы курим,они курят".
"с" have to be pronounced soft in these words.
Not "ъвь"бшеэы like "[eeva]", correct: "взрагивать","оплакивать",размахивать".Don't pronounce with "ы".
He is "маленькИй",she is "маленькАЯ"

Date: 2004-07-30 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aveleen.livejournal.com
Девушка, да что ж вы так настаиваете на "wrong"?? Разве вы не знаете о традициях московской и петербургской школ?

Я изучала сравнительную фонологию русского языка и двух этих школ в университете, поверьте, ничего неправильного я здесь не написала :)) Все, что я перечислила, относится к старой московской традиции. Так действительно говорили и даже до сих пор говорят многие люди в Москве, посмотрите хотя бы старые фильмы - вы везде услышите "дьверь" и "маленькай мальчик". Притом заметьте: я написала не для демонстрации написания, а для демонстрации произношения. А пишутся слова, разумеется, одинаково в обеих школах.

Here, there is no such thing as "wrong" or "right" - there may, however, be such thing as "old" and "new", "widely used" and "not widely used".

Date: 2004-07-30 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zjuzjuchka.livejournal.com
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))

Date: 2004-08-02 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cema.livejournal.com
I say "дьверь", ыес. I mean, yes. But not the other two. "Брыжжет" too. Not the verbs. Hard, yes.

Not the suffix.

Something like this, but not always.

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