шь & щ

[ugly-boy.livejournal.com]

Are шь and щ the same? Also, is this analogy correct:

щ : ш :: тщ : ч

Does the sound "тщ" (presumably as in Mandarin q) exist?

Comments

[ugly-boy.livejournal.com]

Well it's not really pronounced as the English sounds "shch" right next to each other. It's more like sy or shy.

[bobthedog.livejournal.com]

It is for me and my family and many people I've known. I've always thought that the pronunciaton you speak of is lazy. But as an adult I accept that it's sound change. Not that I would use it, due to what I was taught at home. But, it seems that students of Russian think that no one at all still pronounces it the more formal way.