[identity profile] olydiagron.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Hi!
Could you please correct my pronounciation? This time instead of a difficult text by Shukshin, I am reading my own text, which is for some reason easier. Progress is very slow now, so forgive me if I repeat the same kind of mistakes. Thank you!

Date: 2012-05-28 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korica.livejournal.com
This is native Russian's pronounciation.

Date: 2012-08-20 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rustmanspb.livejournal.com
Это кто Вам сказал?

Date: 2012-05-28 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingwall.livejournal.com
Your pronunciation is excellent, I think, except for Земля in "я думаю, вот Земля поворачивает". Just a hint of "полья" in the way you pronounce "поля". Other than that, if I were told that this text is read by a native speaker of Russian who happens to live in a remote region of the country or in one of the ex-Soviet republics, I'd believe it.

Date: 2012-05-28 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingwall.livejournal.com
Also, you get better towards the end of the text, it's like you find your pace and stick with it.

Date: 2012-05-28 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-ks.livejournal.com
Привет) главные ошибки - ты говоришь "мене" вместо "мне" и у тебя проскальзывает звук "Ы" вместо "и". это некритично, в принципе. очень хорошо даже. такое ощущение, что украинка читает текст и иногда "забывается", что он на русском)))

Date: 2012-05-28 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-ks.livejournal.com
ok. if you want to speak english..))
the first try sounds better. i think it's because the main idea of pronunciaton the word "мне" is to make the first letter hard (твёрдой)
and by the way, where did you learn to speak english that way? sounds beautiful) you are from Sweden, if i'm not mistaken...)

Date: 2012-05-28 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chertixa.livejournal.com
Lovely voice :)

Date: 2012-05-28 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raskladu6ka.livejournal.com
Perfect! Except for the corrections pointed out by previous commentators, I advice you to say "потом" with short "a" in the first syllable instead of "o", if you are for classical pronunciation.

Date: 2012-05-28 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raskladu6ka.livejournal.com
You sound brilliant anyway! These mistakes are too little to get worried :)

Date: 2012-05-28 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trilbyhat.livejournal.com
My Polish-Ukrainian relatives spoke with a similar accent. One thing to notice is Щ - you pronounce it a touch like Polish szcz, as they did. But I have also heard some old Russian emigrants to Europe who pronounced it this way - apparently, this is the old St-Pete accent or something. L also sounds Polish, and you add 'j' to make it softer which only makes it worse.

All in all,it sounds very native but obviously non-Moscow and not the way it sounds on TV. Especially the rhythm but some particular sounds too.

Date: 2012-05-28 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
+1 to many above - as for me, the "mne/mene" thing is the only that REALLY gives you away (and even that can still sound like sort of a local thing) - overall very, very good. Congrats!

Date: 2012-05-28 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teamachine.livejournal.com
Please also pay attention to the pronunciation of "вращаются". It sounds like "прощатьца", with initial consonants and "ю" pronounced unclear (at least less clear than one's used to hear). But nevertheless, your pronunciation is very good, I can hardly tell it is not some regional Russian :)

Date: 2012-05-28 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
Очень хорошо. Акцент среднеазиатский:) "мине" вместо "мне"

Date: 2012-05-28 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ybelov.livejournal.com
потому - you pronounce it as "пОтОму", but these are unstressed, weak sounds, so they should be closer to "а" (at least in central Russia)
мама мне говорила - the stress should be on "говорила", not on "мама" (unless you want to emphasise that it was she, not someone else). Later, when you say "а мама говорит", then the stress on "мама" is correct.
But in general, your pronounciation is excellent!
Edited Date: 2012-05-28 09:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-29 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] o-jovem-louco.livejournal.com
Your pronounciation is just splendid!

Some minor issues to work on:

- "приходит из" has to sound like "приходит ыз";
- "запомнила" has to be with a somewhat longer vowel sound in the first syllable, practically like a stressed 'А';
- your soft Ts and Ms are somewhat weird, as well (I would even assume that you pronounce the soft M like a hard one);
- you mispronounced "необычного" as "най-обычного" and "Владивостоке" as "Владовостоке" or something like this;
- and, of course, the above mentioned "мне".

And, eventually, for me your Щs sound absolutely perfect, I don't think there is something to improve.

Veeeery well done. \o/

Date: 2012-05-29 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/kaede_/
Your pronounciation is really excellent!
All mistakes of those few that you make were pointed out by previous commentators, and in general you pronounciation is near native-like.
How long have you been studying Russian for such results?)

Date: 2012-05-29 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-w.livejournal.com
very good, that's almost a native Russian pronunciation.

some issues with hard/soft consonants (including Ц which is always hard), and additional sound [i] (мне)

м[i]не говорила
м[i]не было лет
наве[э]рное
вращаются сами[ы]
влади[ы[востоке

ц / ц'

солнце приходит из России = OK
солнц[ц']и из Америки приходит ...

I've heard your text several times using my professional heaphones so you can trust to my opinion.

Date: 2012-05-29 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-w.livejournal.com
you pronounce
"скоко мне было лет"
"токо один раз сказала"

that's absolutely alright when speaking at rather fast tempo :)
but since you read a previously written text, it would be better and more natural to pronounce "сколько/только"

anyway, your pronunciation and intonation are very very good. even your voice resembles a real Russian woman's voice.
just a little observation about logical stress: мама мне ГОВОРИЛА (not МАМА мне говорила).
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