[identity profile] meaghsley.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
I just added Russian keyboard stickers onto my laptop keys so I can switch between typing in English and Russian, but when I have Russian turned on I don't have the @ symbol. How can I type the @ symbol without switching back to the English keyboard layout??

Date: 2010-03-25 08:32 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
You cannot. Switch back to English, type @, then back to Russian.

Date: 2010-03-25 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miconazole.livejournal.com
You have to switch to English to type email addresses anyway, so I guess there's no real point in having @ on a Russian keyboard.

Date: 2010-03-25 08:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-25 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] towarysc.livejournal.com
No way to do this. Also you cannot type $, %, ^, &, ~, `, ', [, ], {, }, <, and >. That's because Russian alphabet has more letters.

Date: 2010-03-25 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Actually, yes you can type % all right -- it's # you cannot, as in Russian layout there's Russian number sign instead - №.

Date: 2010-03-26 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] towarysc.livejournal.com
My fault

Date: 2010-03-25 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tenryuske.livejournal.com
Shift+2 ? о0

Date: 2010-03-25 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pashator.livejournal.com
You can download Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=8BE579AA-780D-4253-9E0A-E17E51DB2223&displaylang=en

and create your own layout with any characters required to you.

Date: 2010-03-26 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rina-grant.livejournal.com
Oh wow, that's useful, thanks a lot!

Date: 2010-03-25 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anjey.livejournal.com
You can try Alt 064
064 should be typed on numeric (right) keyboard

Date: 2010-03-26 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rina-grant.livejournal.com
Oh wow again -- it worked, it really did! Look -- here I switch to the Russian layout now and hold Alt while typing 064 on the numeric keyboard:

@ @ @ @

Yess! Thank you!

Date: 2010-03-26 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anjey.livejournal.com
Welcome to the mysterious world of ASCII codes. :-)

Date: 2010-03-26 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khathi.livejournal.com
Russian alphabet has seven (or six if you discount "Ё", which is a kinda second class letter), so on a common 54-key aphanumeric pad they take up much larger part of it, so most punctuation gets shifted to a number row, leaving no space for a special symbols like "@" or "&". So you have to switch to English or use Alt-code to type them.

Date: 2010-03-26 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acuzena.livejournal.com
I guess it never has this @ because all email addresses recently have been written in latin letters, never in Cyrillic.

Date: 2010-03-26 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archaicos.livejournal.com
I think the Russian keyboard layout had been designed before e-mail and internet went mainstream (in Russia, at least).

Date: 2010-03-26 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acuzena.livejournal.com
Sure, the same as English ones, but still they have the @ sign, and ours don´t)

Date: 2010-03-26 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archaicos.livejournal.com
In English it had stood for "at" long before the internet and computers were invented. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/@), the American Underwood typewriter had it in 1885 and much earlier Italian texts (as well as text in other descendants of Latin) had it in 15th and 16th centuries. It's likely to be derived from a or à, which is typically used when saying "at the price of". In Russian we didn't have any contraction or abbreviation like this, not in the recent history, at least. Kind of makes sense, why it's not in Russian but is in other languages. I think we could've invented a special character like @ - encircled п (по цене:).

Date: 2010-03-26 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
It's not like you use it often. All email addresses are in Latin alphabet. And since there's no "at" in Russian (I mean, it sounds differently), this symbol is not used in abbreviations.

Date: 2010-03-26 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nooko.livejournal.com
By the way... This symbol we usually call собака (dog)!!!

Date: 2010-03-26 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rina-grant.livejournal.com
And before, it used to be called улитка -- a snail, which makes so much more sense because it does look like one!
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