[identity profile] hachu-chai.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Okay, I need help translating this...this is written from a friend, a girl to a guy friend: I ************ the parts that I REALLY want to understand very, ver well

неа нету... и камеры нету и наушникофф тоже.. ой, да вапще мне тут тесно! *************Жень, вот скажи мне - как ты решился жениться? ты ж блядина (сорри)))!!!!как ты смог остепениться и стать порядочным семьянином? ну как в твои то годы можно жить и спать с одной девочкой? кстати если не секрет расскажи про нее. ей респект за твоё усмирение)))************* а насчет зависти - брось ты! просто так сложилось. главное для меня эт выучиться,кандидата защитить. все еще у меня впереди. ща так скажем было по плоскости, а скоро преодоление сложных препятствий...

Him:

Zhenya:
****************Аня, а кто тебе сказал, что женитьба в моем случае эквивалента остепенению??? Я блядиной никода не был, просто девушек люблю. Между прочем Маринке верным всегда был.*************** Она американка,познакомились в меснтной школе, когда я переучивался на местных крупье. Учится сейчас в универе, у них все как то позднее чем у нас.А на счет остепениться, как ты сама сказала, до этого было по плоскости, препядствия впереди...

Thanks

Date: 2009-09-26 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dusha.livejournal.com
It's look like private messages which are adressed to someone else.
Are you sure, that you want to read it? What about trust between partners?

sorry if I misunderstand something

ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
(I promise this is the last correction :P)

Is this a letter between your fiance and his friend?

She asks him how could a man like him ever settle down with one girl and he says he was always faithful to you.

The other thing he says is ambiguous. Could be, for example, that he is nice and friendly with girls and is going to continue like this. It could be that for her a married guy is the one that will never ever have female friends or out-of-house interests and he reassures her this is not the case. It could indeed be that he had a promiscuous sexual life and he's going to keep it up this way.

I do not understand the very last phrase of his letter. If you would make me guess, I'd say, what he has been through [with you?] so far was an easy part and he expects the hard part to be ahead of him.

Understanding a private written communication between two close friends, neither of whom you know, is not an easy task. If I were you, I would ask him to explain these letters. And I would believe him - otherwise what's the point in being together?

Here is the literal translation of the highlighted text, if you're still interested in it.

She: "Zhenya, now I want to know, how did you ended up decided to get married? You're a hooker (sorry!) [she probably meant the amount of girls he had dated; could very well be exaggeration] How could you settle down and become an honest familyman? How could a man of your age live and sleep with one girl? BTW, if it's not a secret, tell me about her. She has my respect for taming you."

He: "Anya, who told you that getting married is an equivalent of settling down? I have never been a hooker, it's just that I love girls. By the way, I was always faithful to Marina."

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 04:55 am (UTC)

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
Is this one more thing he gave you a green light to read?

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
What's the point in being with a guy and not trusting him? And don't you feel physically uncomfortable going through somebody else's private files? I'll leave it to you.

The translation:

She: "Wow how nice! Come to me in my dreams and I'll come to you in yours. This is how it'll be an online contact! I promise to be a bad girl. ;)"

He: "Certainly!"

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
I would think so. But I'm not 100% positive, as I don't know anything about these two.

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear all this and I wish you the best.

If you ask me, what I see could very well be a very light innocent flirt.

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
BTW, her very very first phrase is this:

"неа нету... и камеры нету и наушникофф тоже.. ой, да вапще мне тут тесно!"

"No I don't [have]. I don't have either a [web]camera or headphones. And in general I feel quite tight here!"

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
Frankly, I don't know.

If you let me be a devil's advocate, it could be that he does not want to discuss his life with you (that she has no clue about), but only makes a remark about his past life (that she knows about). Say, they both know she saw him with girls while he was dating Marina and in this context he says he was faithful to her.

I would hesitate to use this chat alone as a proof to anything. Except for the fact that he was faithful to this other girl.

But it seems like you have good solid reasons to divorce other than this. Like physical abuse. That's quite different, isn't it?

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimeanelf.livejournal.com
Just by itself - it does not mean anything, does it? Suppose you have not seen your best friend in years - would you not want to chat live?

Whatever your decision would be, I wish you the best.

Date: 2009-09-26 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Please note that there is that part in the community rules that asks participants to hide potentially offensive language behind the lj-cut. As there IS such language in the messages you quote, please put them behind the lj-cut.

Date: 2009-09-26 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zveriozha.livejournal.com
I wonder if this person knows that all livejournal (and not just you) reads his private correspondence. I think you are using this community not for the things it was made for.

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barilotti.livejournal.com
Actually he also added about you: that you're an American, that you two got acquainted in the local school for casino workers and that you're still studying in the university/college because apparently the studies go later in the US than in his home country. He also added that right now everything with ou seem to go straight but no one knows the future and maybe as the girl said all the main barriers are in the future...

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barilotti.livejournal.com
I don't think this conversation is a proof he is cheating. It is more like not to sound in the eyes of his long-lost friend as a boring family man, like saying - c'mon, you know, married men are not dead... but at the same time he is trying to advocate for himself that he has never had too many girls when he was in stable relationship before, that he was trustful. So you canot really use it as sa proof for cheating on you.

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 10:32 am (UTC)

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upthera44.livejournal.com
+1, although he seems rather willing to flirt and there are implications of some kind of cyber sex / dirty talk on the internet with his ex girlfriend

Date: 2009-09-26 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upthera44.livejournal.com
it is strange, but on the other hand no one here has any idea who this is

Re: ok then

Date: 2009-09-26 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moai-s.livejournal.com
As for chats, I'd rather take into account online chat culture as well as broader context, not only the words per se. Chat slang and newspeak and habits mostly differ from everyday language. We might need a special dictionary though

Date: 2009-09-27 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missa-gorightry.livejournal.com
I see your point, but at the same time I was glad to learn a few new words :)

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