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[dezelina.livejournal.com]

Hi everyone,

I am again reading more housekeeping manuals, and I came across a section on the location of the child's room.  It said not to place the room над воротами.    I looked ворот up and the only word that seems to fit is gate.  But that doesn't make very much sense.  Any suggestions?

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[priapic-saint.livejournal.com]

It is definitely gate, but could you provide the whole phrase or paragraph? The only reason for not placing child's room upon gate I can think of at the moment is probably дворник who curses out loud. %)

[icamel.livejournal.com]

What year that manual has been written?

[priapic-saint.livejournal.com]

воро'та (pluralia tantum) is gate anyway

[dezelina.livejournal.com]

The manual was written in 1900. The whole sentence:

оно должно быть чисто, просторно, сухо, не должно помещаться над воротами, над сенями и, вообщем над каким нибудь нежилым помещением

[karakal.livejournal.com]

It must be a dacha or some other type of suburban or countryside houses. It makes sense then.

[icamel.livejournal.com]

There were city houses big enough. I suppose they mean that notinhabitate rooms were cold, so it is not good enough for children to live in a room with a cold floor.

[sofa-m.livejournal.com]

"помещение для ребенка", maybe?

[dezelina.livejournal.com]

That would be it.

[alek-morse.livejournal.com]

So, it can be the gates like in Saloon... with two shutters in place of an usual door.

[icamel.livejournal.com]

It can be gates going through the house first floor from street to yard. They were common about 1900. Something like that: (http://ondryushka.livejournal.com/105078.html)

[alek-morse.livejournal.com]

an interesting hypothesis

So, in your picture this room can be placed on second floor on the left, isn't?

old house? By the way, it is non-essentially. Some Stalin-era apartament buildings have the same, and the modern multistoreyed ones too - the gates is for a passage of cars inside the yard.

[icamel.livejournal.com]

Not can, but couldn't, according to the manual

Well, actually, I live in a house built in 1985 and it has it. But new houses are rarely built in a row along the street without any space between and don't have private yards. And the subject raised from a book written in 1900 (http://community.livejournal.com/learn_russian/925010.html?thread=14172498#t14172498).

[priapic-saint.livejournal.com]

Yes, everything's right. It makes sense for higher class double-storeyed houses, or for those who rent an apartament, or anything else. Maybe because of cold or because of wind.