Declining double-barrel surnames

[maceochi.livejournal.com]

What are the rules for declining double-barrel surnames, e.g., Бестужев-Рюмин?

«При Бестужеве-Рюмине» or «при Бестужев-Рюмине»? «С Бестужевым-Рюминым» or «с Бестужев-Рюминым»?

What about surnames where the first declines but the second does not?
«С Евпачиным-Бондаренко» or «с Евпачин-Бондаренко»?

Thanks to everyone in advance!

Comments

[sanin.livejournal.com]

При Бестужеве-Рюмине
С Бестужевым-Рюминым
С Евпачиным-Бондаренко

[arashi-opera.livejournal.com]

If both surnames are declinable, both must be declined: "при Бестужеве-Рюмине".

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

In Russian history, here's a bunch of even worse cases, but they all more or less follow the same pattern:
Для генерал-фельдмаршала Михаила Богдановича Барклая-де-Толли... (compare with: "Неужели должны мы быть неблагодарны к заслугам Барклая-де-Толли, потому что Кутузов велик?" (Alexander Pushkin)) - infinitive: Барклай-де-Толли

При генерале Петре Ивановиче Меллере-Закомельском... (infinitive: Меллер-Закомельский)

Драматурга Сухово-Кобылина часто спрашивали... (infinitive is Сухово-Кобылин, its 1st part being a rare noble family name Сухово).

Several known exclusions are:
Григорий Ефимович Грумм-Гржимайло (the famous geographer and zoologist) does not follow the pattern: it's Григорию Ефимовичу Грумм-Грижмайло, для Григория Ефимовича Грумм-Гржимайло etc.

Николай Николаевич Миклухо-Маклай (the anthropologist who had lived among the peoples of New Guinea) would make Николаю Николаевичу Миклухо-Маклаю etc. in modern Russian, though in his times (1880s) first part of his last name would also decline: Николая Николаевича Миклухи-Маклая etc.

[dair-spb.livejournal.com]

As I agree I have to note that feminine second names declines different from masculine:

So, if we'd imagine Барклай-де-Толли's wife, also Барклай-де-Толли, foregin-based name does not decline — she would be Барклай-де-Толли in all declines:
Елена Ивановна Барклай-де-Толли
Елену Ивановну Барклай-де-Толли

But name of wife of Меллер-Закомельский declines better:
Меллер-Закомельская
Меллер-Закомельскую

[igorborisov.livejournal.com]

In Russian foreign surnames not declinable in feminine, unlike of masculine, which are commonly declines. Both sides of double-barrel surname declines separately.
Foreign surname is surname that does not end with -ов, -ин, -ский - the common slavic surname endings. The exception are Ukrainian surnames (-ко), which are not declinable at all.

Барклай and Толли are both foreign.
Меллер is foreign, Закомельский isn't.

[igorborisov.livejournal.com]

By the way, Толли does not decline. As far as all surnames that ends with wowel, with the exception of 'й'.

[igorborisov.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I also forgot -ев which is slavic too. ^)

[hellga.livejournal.com]

Grammatically correct is to decline both names, however, in colloquial usage, especially when speaking fast, a lot of people will only decline the second part. Just so you are aware. :)

[konstkaras.livejournal.com]

Grammatic rules (http://ru.rodovid.org/wk/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%A4%D0%98%D0%9E) say that first part declines only if it can be used as a separate surname. So, "Сухово-" is just indeclinable by itself; other examples are Бонч-Бруевич and Armenian prefixes Тер- and Мелик-.