громадье

[superbad.livejournal.com]

I am trying to figure out what this phrase means (from Mayakovsky perhaps?):

Я планов наших люблю громадье

I found one web site that says "You won't find the word громадье in any dictionary!" ...But then it doesn't go on to tell me what it means.

Help?

Comments

[dr-shinigami.livejournal.com]

"громадьё" actually means "too many" or "a mountain of"; that's a noun, formed from the "громадный" adjective. Often used when joking or speaking with sarcasm.))

[mphedoseeva.livejournal.com]

It means a "massive heap", "a colossus" - look up definition of the word "громада".

[konstkaras.livejournal.com]

A vast number (and huge scale) [of plans](from громадный).

[edik-lukoyanov.livejournal.com]

It's a neologism. Громадье = Greating, i think.

[icamel.livejournal.com]

Mayakovsky didn't mean irony.

                        Хвалить
                                не заставят
                                            ни долг,
                                                     ни стих
                        всего,
                              что делаем мы.
                        Я
                           пол-отечества мог бы
                   2620                         снести,
                        а пол -
                                отстроить, умыв.
                        Я с теми,
                                 кто вышел
                                           строить
                                                  и месть
                        в сплошной
                                   лихорадке
                                             буден.
                   2630 Отечество
                                  славлю,
                                          которое есть,
                        но трижды -
                                    которое будет.
                        Я
                          планов наших
                                       люблю громадьё,
                        размаха
                                шаги саженьи.
                   2640 Я радуюсь
                                  маршу,
                                         которым идем
                        в работу
                                 и в сраженья.
                        Я вижу -
                                 где сор сегодня гниет,
                        где только земля простая -
                        на сажень вижу,
                                        из-под нее
                   2650 коммуны
                                дома
                                     прорастают.
                        И меркнет
                                  доверье
                                          к природным дарам
                        с унылым
                                 пудом сенц_а_,
                        и поворачиваются
                                         к тракторам
                   2660 крестьян
                                 заскорузлые сердца.
                        И планы,
                                 что раньше
                                            на станциях лбов
                        задерживал
                                   нищенства тормоз,
                        сегодня
                                встают
                                       из дня голубого,
                   2670 железом
                                и камнем формясь.
                        И я,
                             как весну человечества,
                        рожденную
                                  в трудах и в бою,
                        пою
                            мое отечество,
                        республику мою!

[konstkaras.livejournal.com]

It's quite common when something serious in original becomes ironical as an idiom.

[tintagil.livejournal.com]

He's not "pathetic" in any way ))) He is "pompous" and declamatory perhaps, but of course only the Soviet people could regard him as really serious.
Now (from the temporal distance) it is easier to see the irony and sometimes even pain he conveyed in the poems. But it is a question of literature, not pure linguistics.

[tintagil.livejournal.com]

I still think he does mean irony )

[kot-davinchi.livejournal.com]

громадье=громада=heap
громадье планов - a lot of plans

I like great amount of our plans
or there may be other meaning^
I like greatness of our plans

[andrey-bessonov.livejournal.com]

grandity )

[deadly-innocent.livejournal.com]

the whole sentence means that I like when we have a lot of (a heap) of plans

[grosman.livejournal.com]

something like "tremendousity"

[windy-corner.livejournal.com]

The word is formed from громада, which is too physical and visual for Mayakovsky's purpose, so he forms neuter with the help of -ье suffix, that has additional collective nouns' flavour. Compare житьё, шитьё, мытьё, нытьё, бельё, - borrowing translation from Ancient Greek with its neuter plural - one can say it's about 'things that have something to do with... (living, sewing, washing, nagging, white cloth). So громадьё is 'something to do with grand, gigantic scale' of 'our plans'.

See also: http://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0
"Громада" is assocoated with the heap of clouds, the first thing, so the root adds
high, slightly celestial intonation to the description of the plans - even if man-made, as the -ьё suffix makes us feel.

[alexbogd.livejournal.com]

Actually, Mayakovsky invented the word.

[misha-dnvtsk.livejournal.com]

Yes, Mayakovsky invented the word like many others BTW. In plain words this line means "I love the greatness of our plans". Later on the word громадье and the line in general aquired some kind of ironic hue. When you'd line to ridicule someone's far-reaching and not-very-likely-to-materialize plans you may just say it: Я планов наших люблю громадью.
Another thing is that probably a substantial chunk of younger people (under 20 yo) would not understand you now. Unfortunately.

[retiredwizard.livejournal.com]

look up громада instead of громадье

:0)

[pere4-stroika.livejournal.com]

IMHO 1st post is absolutelly correct :)))

[lenny-goofoff.livejournal.com]

grandeur?