[identity profile] olydiagron.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Hi!

I guess I'm on the edge of getting banned from this community on grounds of the no foul language rule. But I am not interested in foul language, really, I just need to understand what people say and sing!!!

There are two things in this song that I dont understand.

1. Что они в карманах носили?

2. Is he singing "Прошу не залупаться"? What does залупаться mean? Has it got anything to do with залупа, is it an obscen way of saying beeing an idiot?


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Date: 2008-02-20 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dair-spb.livejournal.com
> 1. Что они в карманах носили?
What they had (lit.: carried) in [their] pockets?

For the reason not to be banned from the community feel free to contact me via ICQ/GTalk (in my userinfo) ;-)

Date: 2008-02-20 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmc-whitefox.livejournal.com
What does залупаться mean?
I'm just crying))))

Date: 2008-02-20 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmc-whitefox.livejournal.com
In fact, I don't know the exact analogue in English of this phrase. I'd translate as "do not be so aggressive or smth like that.
Simply, this phrase sounds in mix of Russian and English comically))

Date: 2008-02-20 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gimser.livejournal.com
1. Свинчатки. СвинчАтка is rarely used jargon word. It means the kind of simple hooligan's weapon, smth like whip with lead on the ends.

2. Quite rude verb. Russian synonym - выпендриваться. Put on airs or show off are good translations.

If you understand all other words in this movie - your russian is fantastic ) But be careful - it's a parody on rusian criminal songs and many words are pronounced incorrectly. Especially it's seen in stresses.

Date: 2008-02-20 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oiseau-russe.livejournal.com
1 Свинчатка. That's a sort of wearpoon (I'm not sure that it's a good word)in plumb wery popular in bunfight

2"Has it got anything to do with залупа" Yes. But I am not sure that the meaning here is "being idiot". I'd rather say "to gam", but I'm not an expert in obscene words :)

Date: 2008-02-20 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dair-spb.livejournal.com
oh :-)

"свинчатки". Means small metal (usually lead, so the word "свинчатка" from "свинец" — lead) thing which is designed to be held in a fist to punch heavily.

Date: 2008-02-20 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jakobz.livejournal.com
"Свинчатка" devived from "Свинец", plumbum. A relatively heavy, cylindric piece of plumbum that conveniently fits in a fist. It is used to greatly improve the power of punch. Sometimes used during hooligans fights.

Date: 2008-02-20 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dair-spb.livejournal.com
"СВИНЧАТКА [] 2. Слиток, кусок свинца."
(http://www.ozhegov.ru/slovo/47150.html)

"Ingot, peace of lead"

Date: 2008-02-20 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teknomad.livejournal.com
There is nothing obscene in свинчатки(plural). Wich is, basically, brass-knucklers, but made from lead.

Date: 2008-02-20 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmc-whitefox.livejournal.com
I guess you're right ;)

Date: 2008-02-20 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jakobz.livejournal.com
а short form of "на х$й"

a little of offtopic

Date: 2008-02-20 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dair-spb.livejournal.com
;-)

I hope you know that fragment is entirely a parody.

Date: 2008-02-20 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oiseau-russe.livejournal.com
Just in case. На in the end of nearly every phrase in this song stays for нахуй, so be careful using it

Date: 2008-02-20 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jakobz.livejournal.com
Yes it is. But it formally is not "мат" and can pass tv censorship.

Date: 2008-02-20 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gimser.livejournal.com
Yes. A bit less rude form.
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