(no subject)

[fretfool.livejournal.com]

hi everybody
could you please advice me on the following question
how do you spell in English the Russian sound [ Щ ] ???
thanks in advance=)))) 

UPD
no, I mean for example Ртищево
how would you spell? 

UPD
thank you for your help =)

Comments

[cassandraclue.livejournal.com]

shch

IMHO

[natha1ie.livejournal.com]

smth like [sh] in machine, machinery, [sh] before [long stressed i].

OOPS!

[natha1ie.livejournal.com]

Misread. I answered another question. 8-P

[eavanmoore.livejournal.com]

sh'

[oryx_and_crake]

Certainly not. First of all, "sh" is ш. Second, Russian language does not have a soft "ш", so whether you affix an apostrophe to it or not, it does not change. The correct transliteration for щ is shch, as cassandraclue already said.

[eavanmoore.livejournal.com]

Okay, sorry!

[fretfool.livejournal.com]

and doesn't SCH work at all in this case?

[oryx_and_crake]

Well, it might, but the "official" transliteration for щ is still shch.

[fretfool.livejournal.com]

okay, thanks a lot

[khathi.livejournal.com]

It might, but in German it means just "sh", so there's a much room for confusion.

[cassandraclue.livejournal.com]

in german щ used to be schtsch. don't know it's still that way though.

[yms.livejournal.com]

Exactly like in "ssshit", which BTW means "shield" in Russian :)

[oryx_and_crake]

very funny, haha

[yms.livejournal.com]

oops... my answer was about pronouncement, the question was about spelling...

[fretfool.livejournal.com]

but still nice
thank you =)

[rower.livejournal.com]

in fact i is pronounced a little differentlty - in english it is a bit harder, thou not that hard as Ы . like if Ы is 0 and И is 10, - in that word (and in english in general) i is somewhere on 7.5-8.5.

[cassandraclue.livejournal.com]

птищево ptishchevo

[fretfool.livejournal.com]

hehe, was fuer ein Птищево?! =)))
Rtishchevo - it's a city
thank you so much =)

[cassandraclue.livejournal.com]

hahah oops i get confused sometimes :)

[zveriozha.livejournal.com]

sch and shch - both possible

[giftchild.livejournal.com]

'shch' is the official, i was taught (and heard while there) that 'sch' is a leningrad/st.petersberg accent.

[alsemoff.livejournal.com]

девушка, правила транслитерации никто не отменял еще.
щ - shch

[pzrk.livejournal.com]

Russian standard transliteration is "sch". Other variants are strongly prohibited at least in official papers.

[oryx_and_crake]

Where did you get this information?

[firebottle.livejournal.com]

I don't remember correctly, but one of ГОСТ 16876-71 successors requires exactly that: only 24 Latin letters (same as in English except "j" and "w"), unequivocally pronounced letter combinations etc.

[acuzena.livejournal.com]

To tell the truth I'm not good at GOSTs, but the USA Embassy uses "shch" as official transliteration tip.

[firebottle.livejournal.com]

It also can be misread (as "шч", compared to "сч" from "sch")...

[acuzena.livejournal.com]

I can't even imagine that one might read "sch" as "сч". "School" is one of the first 10 words you learn when starting your English course.

[firebottle.livejournal.com]

It really is, but... try to transliterate "счастье" :-)

[acuzena.livejournal.com]

Transliteration is often used to transmit proper names(e.g., cities) or titles. Cases when you need to transliterate common nouns including this very word are very limited. Even then it is possible to put "shchast'e" instead of "schast'e". Remember that you are trying to put not only letters, buts sounds as well. E.g., {'} stands for "ь"(which has no sound in Russian).

[oryx_and_crake]

So what does it have to do with the transliteration of "щ"? "shch" does not contain j or w and is unequivocally pronounced.

[rainydaymary.livejournal.com]

SHCH

SHCHASTLIVII!