Russian Movies
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Thanks for all the suggestions about Russian singers and songs, many of them were great!
Another question is about Russian movies. What Russian movies would you recommend for the Russian language student who loves good films?
He liked Ironia sud'by and Obyknovennoe chudo. He was able to understand about third of the dialogs in Russian and the rest with the help of English and Russian subtitles.
Thanks!
Another question is about Russian movies. What Russian movies would you recommend for the Russian language student who loves good films?
He liked Ironia sud'by and Obyknovennoe chudo. He was able to understand about third of the dialogs in Russian and the rest with the help of English and Russian subtitles.
Thanks!
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Date: 2007-10-03 02:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 07:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 02:57 pm (UTC)Here are some of the ones we watched, all of which I enjoyed:
The Adventures of Mr. West in the Land of the Bolsheviks
Battleship Potemkin
The Cuckoo
The Cranes are Flying
Dark Eyes
East-West (it's actually a French movie, but it's about Stalinist Russia and it's amazing)
Moscow Doesn't Believe in Tears
Eisenstein's Ivan the Terrible
Andrei Rublev
Burnt by the Sun
Solaris
Oblomov
The Barber of Siberia
Even the ones that weren't really, really great were still informative and entertaining. :)
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Date: 2007-10-03 03:36 pm (UTC)Battleship Potemkin///
Hmm... These films are great, no doubt. But they are silent ones, with subtitles in old fashion. Is it enough for the learning of Russian language?
///The Barber of Siberia///
As for me, I'm not sure that film is successful choice. I'd like to recommend the others films by director Nikita Mikhalkov. For example, his "Slave of Love" (Раба любви). There are the plot of the Civil War time, the love-story with movie star Olga Voznesenskaya (her prototype is Vera Holodnaya), the intrigue with contra-intelligence, old Odessa and many other interesting things. Very piercing film!
However, if I was asked what the Russian movie do you recommend first for a foreign viewer, I'd recommend "Formula of Love" (Формула любви) by Mark Zakharov. It's very witty film, a comedy and melodrama at the same time. In ending of 18 century, the famous Count Cagliostro has arrived in Russia. Of course, he arranges the seances of Magic... Some day one young landowner asks him to transform the stone statue of female into real alive girl.
Here are you may to read of the film and see the screencaps:
http://russart.com/?mid=108
Excellent and witty replies! The screenplay is written by famous playwright Grigory Gorin. The replies came off in people's quotes.
If you'd to find an analogy of that film among Western movie, I'd say that "Formula of Love" like a bit Terry Gilliam's films + Stopard's plays.
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Date: 2007-10-03 03:42 pm (UTC)I haven't seen Slave of Love or Formula of Love, they both sound wonderful! I don't think I know Zakharov, but it sounds really magical. :) I'll have to look into both of those.
I enjoyed the Barber of Siberia, but that might have been because my professor was funny and I associate it with a lot of little inside jokes he would make while we were watching it.
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Date: 2007-10-03 03:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 03:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 04:00 pm (UTC)Of course, Sergey Bodrov is very good.
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Date: 2007-10-03 04:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 04:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 03:09 pm (UTC)Mark Zakharov (http://imdb.com/name/nm0952272/)'s movies.
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Date: 2007-10-03 03:29 pm (UTC)Кин-дза-дза ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091341/ ) - anti-utopia, sci-fi, comedy, a cult movie in Russia, 1986
Человек с бульвара Капуцинов (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092745/) - wild west comedy, 1987
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Date: 2007-10-03 03:57 pm (UTC)I'd recomment these film too, no doubt. Before I thought what of two films to pick - 'Kin-Dza-Dza' (Кин-дза-дза) or 'Formula of Love'.
'Formula of Love' has won becouse of the action has been in Russia.
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Date: 2007-10-04 02:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 03:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 03:44 pm (UTC)I like more 'Day Watch' than 'Night Watch'. It has more well thought-out conseption, I think. I'd to cut down 'Night Watch' to 10-15 minutes prologue for 'Day Watch'.
As for '9th Company'...
There is more interesting Russian/Soviet film of Afghan war: 'Афганский излом' with Italian actor Mikele Plachido. I highly recommend this.
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Date: 2007-10-03 08:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 04:11 pm (UTC)i also like брат and груз 200, but according to wikipedia this director's films are often criticized by american film critics as being xenophobic/racist. the things you learn from wikipedia.
i was given a list by one of my friends of good russian movies for people who are really serious about film... i'll try to find it for you.
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Date: 2007-10-03 04:27 pm (UTC)directors:
гайдай, данелиа, норштейн (animation), тарковский, евгенний юфит--avant-garde "neorealism"
alternative/art films:
собачье сердце
я куба
сталкер
андрей рублев (i personally hate this movie, it's terribly long and they spend a long time making a freaking bell but a lot of people seem to enjoy it :))
иваново детство
солярис
июльский дождь
летят журавли
интердевочка
калина красная
белое солнце пустыня
some popular soviet films:
будьте моим мужем
три плюс два
человек амфибия
я шагаю по москве
soviet satire:
осенний марафон
афоня
comedies:
операция "ы"
кавказская пленница
бриллантовая рука
джентельмены удачи
animation:
остров сокровищ
ежик в тумане
documentaries:
анна 6-18
avant-garde/absurd
трактор
2 капитана 2
from other soviet republics:
мольба--georgian
покаяние--georgian
цвет граната
I haven't seen any of these films myself... most russian movies i have seen i just saw on tv and don't remember the names. but i figured this list might be helpful :)
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Date: 2007-10-03 05:15 pm (UTC)I read many rapturous responces by American viewers of 'Amphibian Man' (Человек-Аимфибия). Here is: http://imdb.com/title/tt0055844/ (info is in http://russart.com/?mid=1476 )
I'd to add to the list the name of director Mark Zakharov.
That's interesing, I don't see in the list the famous Soviet mini-series like '17 instances of Sping' (17 мгновений весны) about Soviet spy in the Nazi headquarters... I think this film is very important part of Russians' self-consciousness.
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Date: 2007-10-03 05:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 05:48 pm (UTC)The matter is that '17 instances of Spring' contains a lot of replies that became the proverbial quotes, without ones I hardly imagine everyday relations not only at home, but in office. For example, here is one of most famous:
А вас, Штирлиц, я попрошу остаться! ;)
And if a Russian mate/collegue or chief will say it to your student?
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Date: 2007-10-03 08:21 pm (UTC)did you think that perhaps i meant the film you speak of does not reflect russian self-consciousness? that i do not doubt--i merely meant that the list itself was written from the point of view of a foreigner. that is my fault for not writing my response clearly enough.
also, if someone said "а вас, Штрилиц, я попрошу остаться!" i would understand the meaning even without understanding the cultural context. a learner of language is never "finished," i suppose, as once you have your language fluency there is still cultural fluency.
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Date: 2007-10-03 07:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 07:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 04:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 07:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-04 05:00 am (UTC)I watch these films with subtitles. I'm pretty much a beginner at learning Russian, and have been so for a long time. But movies have provoked me to do a little more than just dabble in it.
Sometimes I can correctly anticipate what the actors are going to say from reading the subtitle; sometimes I can tell they're talking about things that are absolutely not in the subtitles.
One good thing from all of this is that my wife and I have found something we enjoy watching together, even though she's not trying to learn the language. It makes her a little more tolerant of the time I spend on such a frivolous activity.
One thing I'm curious about -- in the movie Depuis qu’Otar est parti, is the Russian spoken with a French accent? I have no ability to detect something like that. (That's one we watched recently. I gave it a 5 on Netflix.)
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Date: 2007-10-05 02:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-06 03:56 am (UTC)Here is Netflix: Since Otar Left (http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Since_Otar_Left/60037330?trkid=189530&strkid=1947431955_0_0)
I blogged about it here (http://www.reticulator.com/2007/09/05/depuis-quotar-est-parti/) and here (http://www.reticulator.com/2007/09/06/depuis-qu%e2%80%99otar-est-parti%e2%80%a62/) when watching it.
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Date: 2007-10-03 04:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 05:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 05:55 pm (UTC)...and you can find more detail info of it in my Live Journal ;)))
By the way, it's a interesting variant to learn Russian language with the Russian film adaptation of English stories. True.
For example:
This film screened the Agatha Christie's novel -
http://imdb.com/title/tt0092879/
http://russart.com/?mid=32
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Date: 2007-10-03 05:26 pm (UTC)http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/71405/
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Date: 2007-10-03 08:14 pm (UTC)very nice movie
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Date: 2007-10-03 05:29 pm (UTC)Джентельмены удачи (Gentlemeny udachy), http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068519/ recommended as it's full of new russian proverbs (this film has introduced most of them).
Тот самый Мюнхаузен (Tot samyy Myunkhgauzen), http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080037/
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Date: 2007-10-03 07:06 pm (UTC)"Стакан воды"
"Берегись автомобиля"
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Date: 2007-10-03 07:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 07:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-03 08:10 pm (UTC)"Приключения Электроника" - cult teenage movie, also about robot :)))
About robot, too:
Date: 2007-10-08 10:05 am (UTC)http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062508/
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Date: 2007-10-03 08:41 pm (UTC)Of those that have already been mentioned - +1:
'Kin-Dza-Dza' ("Кин-Дза-Дза");
all the Gayday and Ryazanov films;
Dog's heart ("Собачье сердце");
The Autumn Maraphon ("Осенний марафон");
The White Sun of the Desert ("Белое солнце пустыни");
A Glass of Water ("Стакан воды").
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Date: 2007-10-05 01:58 pm (UTC)Among Ryazanov's films I would definitely recommend watching "The Garage" (Гараж) and "Railway station for two" (Вокзал для двоих).
As to Kin-Dza-Dza, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially a foreigner. I never undestood that film and I can't undestand why it was to make it. That's just my opinion of course.
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Date: 2007-10-04 07:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-04 09:18 pm (UTC)Here's the list of 100 best Russian films.
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Date: 2007-10-05 01:53 pm (UTC)