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[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

Hi!

Is "боны" the same thing as skinns or is it just any kind of hooligans?

thanks 

UDP: Thank you, everybody! I always learn more than just the meaning of a word or two, when I pose a question in this community!!!

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[ckamikadze.livejournal.com]

where did you find the word "боны" ?

I am curious, because I've never heard of this word before.
(At least in the meanings you've mentioned.)

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

In antifa lj it is used a lot...
for instance http://tupikin.livejournal.com/256586.html

[ex-roumor.livejournal.com]

be aware of any russian so-called "antifa".

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

We have the violent ones in Sweden too...:(
But the non- violent are nice!

[ex-roumor.livejournal.com]

btw thanks. i rly enjoyed reading your lj.
one of the best russian blogs iv ever seen.

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

oh, thanks! :-)
I'm not embarassed to write in Russian, and very nice friends often correct misstakes in my posts. it is a good way of improving the language!

[x-anastasia-x.livejournal.com]

боны = бонхеды = boneheads

I think you can find much about them in Wikipedia.

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

thanks alot! I found it in wiki

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%85%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%8B

English is not my strong side... a think bonehead in english is just a stupid person, right? But боны are a nazis, or at least chuvenists. That's intressting, that it has changed a bit!

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

oh, Im swedish, the wiki-article is decorated with some swedish nazi... Urk.

[miconazole.livejournal.com]

"Bonehead" is also an insulting word for nazi skinheads, so "бонхед" must have been borrowed from that.

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

aha, thanks, I'm not only learning Russian her, but some English as well! thanks!

[funbit.livejournal.com]

never heard the word "боны" or "бон"

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

In antifa lj it is used all the time...
for instance http://tupikin.livejournal.com/256586.html

[gnomobile.livejournal.com]

yes, in antifa slang this word is used to mean скинхеды, нацисты. but not in common speech. those who are far from all these fa-antifa battles would not understand.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Note that there is also a non-slang word боны in Russian: it means foreign banknotes as collectible items. The lore of collecting old and/or foreign banknotes is called бонистика (while collecting old and/or foreign coins is called нумизматика).

[kefir-na-noch.livejournal.com]

just wanted to say same :))

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

aha! thanks!

[asklepij.livejournal.com]

Yeah, there are original skinheads, who are antifachists, and boneheads, who are nazis.

[rpocc.livejournal.com]

First of all i would to join wolk_off's point concerning non-slang meaning.
Now: Бон (in this meaning) is delivered from a modern self-called skinheads sarcasticly ransformed to Bonehead
But it is quite difficult issue. Actually most of боны are just common hooligans unable to think different (also called "гопник(и)") posing their penal ideology as fascist or similar. In most cases they use it only as justification for accomplishing violent actions. (Sometimes unconscious under influence of those who find it advantageous) Also they bravely call themselves "Patriots" meaning offer of some potential defence from "outer enemies".
Other several denominations widespread in Livejournal anti-fascist communities and blogs: "скины", "наци(ки)", "фош(и|ы)зт(ы|еги)", "по(ц)треот(ы|еги)" (pejorative corrupted forms from "нацист, фашист, патриот"), "брит(оголов)ые", ""
IMHO, it is our serious social (and potential political) problem. Perhaps nationalistic views has been embeded in 80s in order to destroy USSR, and Russia further. :)

By the way, there is no reason to be aware of so-called Antifa as roumor suggested. It is just sub-culture expressing their own position as openly (and offten aggressively) as skinheads do - no more, no less. And of course, idiots and fan-boys occurs among them as frequently as among in any other sub-cultures.

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

Thanks! Yeah we have a bit of the same in Sweden, of course. But it is strangely less now then a few years ago. And it has never been such a big problem as it is in Russia right now.

[karden.livejournal.com]

u've lost three first letters somewhere - "вые" ^_^

[olydiagron.livejournal.com]

oi, that is foul langauge ineed!!! But I wont tell on you! ;)