[identity profile] callmeromana.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Очень советую прочитать пару книжек, а именно Понедельник начинается в субботу (братья Стругацкие) и Шлем ужаса (Виктор Пелевин). Так вы сможете проверить себя :) Удачи!

<a href="http://lib.aldebaran.ru/author/strugackii_arkadii/strugackii_arkadii_ponedelnik_nachinaetsya_v_subbotu/">download Monday</a>

<a href="http://www.koob.ru/pelevin/shlem_uzhasa>download Helmet</a> 

Пока!
Bye!

Date: 2007-05-17 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flameaside.livejournal.com
не надо такое читать.

Date: 2007-05-17 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alex-rex.livejournal.com
Это ВАше мнение основано на сюжетах книг или на их стилистике?

Date: 2007-05-17 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flameaside.livejournal.com
обе - для иностранца непонятны.
и вообще Пелевина читать - себя не жалеть.

Date: 2007-05-17 04:39 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
I have to remind that the working language of this community is English.

Date: 2007-05-17 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alex-rex.livejournal.com
Yep, sorry. It was too categorical sentence, so I couldn't refrain from that comment. :)

Date: 2007-05-17 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynda22222.livejournal.com
Why not? I have already read them and I like em.

Date: 2007-05-17 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flameaside.livejournal.com
I believe you. but have you UNDERSTOOD them?

Date: 2007-05-18 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynda22222.livejournal.com
Yes (with a little help from russian friend of mine)

Date: 2007-05-18 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynda22222.livejournal.com
With a TINY help, I have to say :)
Cos I'm stupid :)

Date: 2007-05-17 04:39 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
I have to remind that the working language of this community is English, even if the author of the original post does not know that.

Date: 2007-05-17 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solaq.livejournal.com
I think that if a person learns a foreign language (it doesn't matter, what) it's better to read firstly easy-read books, maybe fairytales or smth like that. For example I began reading english-language literature with Alice in Wonderland by Karroll =) I think it's been very useful for me!

But these books are too difficult for foreigners, I think.

Date: 2007-05-17 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-dy-ashley.livejournal.com
Well, it´s really very subjective and individual, you know... Alice In Wonderland is not exactly the easiest book to understand, with all the puns and allusions which make it a complicated text even in your mother tongue.

Fairytales, as well as other types of children´s literature, are EXTREMELY difficult for non-native speakers (if you take an unabridged version, I mean). It´s the last thing I´d advise a Russian learner to choose to read.

BTW the post says the books are for those who already have the necessary command of Russian.

Date: 2007-05-17 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solaq.livejournal.com
But it's a really good language training! Cause in our Univercity the entrants MUST know almost every proverb or idiom. And I even don't know 'em in Russian well enough. So the books can help. I liked Winnie-the-Pooh and stories about Alice - they're really amazing. I can't object, sometimes they were a bit hard to understand, but the book contained some useful explanations.

I've read. But I really have some doubt in that they're the best variant even for advanced. Probably it would be better to read for example russian great?

Date: 2007-05-17 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-dy-ashley.livejournal.com
You know, it sounds at least ridiculous about knowing "almost every proverb or idiom", even for a University entrance test, sorry;) The number of these items is practically unlimited, not to mention all the regional varieties...

Date: 2007-05-17 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solaq.livejournal.com
we have a non-test system. And they try to fail every student on an examination if he isn't a relative of smb from the examining board or if he hasn't paid

Date: 2007-05-17 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-dy-ashley.livejournal.com
Not to go completely offtopic, I can just say again that reading Russian fairy tales is the last thing to do if you want to learn some really useful vocabulary (nevermind the admission board monsters;))

Date: 2007-05-17 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solaq.livejournal.com
hah, you're right

Date: 2007-05-17 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyusha81.livejournal.com
I disagree about the first book - i think it's very difficult to understand for non-native speaker. It could be an interesting challenge for someone very advanced, but even then - the cultural references are so vast that i doubt it would nearly as funny.

Moderatorial

Date: 2007-05-17 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
Please note that the working language of this community is English. It's OK to occasionally post in Russian but then you are expected to provide a translation. So please provide a translation of your original post. Thank you.

Date: 2007-05-18 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-roumor.livejournal.com
yez strugatskie are sweet.
might be the best samples of our literature in 20 century.

pelevin is uber aswell
^_^

Date: 2007-05-18 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-roumor.livejournal.com
Please Dont Be Upset with all these "You won't get a crap" posts.
its the same as to say Never watch Lynch films because you wont understand.
anyone reading any book will have different idea behind the plot.
and in case of Strugatskie the main thing is a very nice example of the russian language.

almost all A.B. Strugatski's books are free for download here http://www.rusf.ru/abs/books.htm
i would You recommend these ABS books aswell:
Пикник на обочине
Хищные вещи века
Необитаемый остров
Гадкие лебеди
Далекая радуга
Улитка на склоне
Град обреченный

Date: 2007-05-18 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kuroi-kuroi.livejournal.com
Ага, и еще что-нибудь из Фрая, в придачу. :)

Date: 2007-05-18 12:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
Please note that the working language of this community is English. It's OK to occasionally post in Russian but then you are expected to provide a translation. Thank you.

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