[identity profile] clownshoes.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
How do I know what case to use with свои? My book hardly explains it. Should I just have it be the case of the words around it?

Date: 2007-02-15 04:02 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
Can you give a few examples? In general it has to agree with the word it modifies, but I am not sure that this is the answer to your question.

e.g. Маша всегда убирает свои игрушки.

Date: 2007-02-15 04:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
As the modofied word can be in another case, "свои" can take different cases too

e.g.
Я не нашел своих книг
Я пишу письмо своим родителям

Date: 2007-02-16 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khathi.livejournal.com
Naturally, when you see that some word "agrees" with other, it means that it takes all grammatical attributes of said word. For example, in the phrase "Я не нашёл своих книг" "книг" is in genitive plural, so posessive pronoun "свой" also should be in genitive plural -- "своих".

Date: 2007-02-15 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atranotte.livejournal.com
Свои is used to show that someone own something. Свои = my, your, his/her, our, their if the noun is plural.
Examples:
Я люблю свои ботинки. I like my shoes.
Ты любишь свои ботинки. You like your shoes.
Он/Она любит свои ботинки. He/She likes his/her shoes.
Мы любим свои ботинки. We like our shoes.
Вы любите свои ботинки. You like your shoes.
Они любят свои ботинки. They like their shoes.

Date: 2007-02-16 03:42 am (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
It has nothing to do with свои then. Study the case system - hopefully in a while you will get it.

Date: 2007-02-16 02:17 pm (UTC)
oryx_and_crake: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oryx_and_crake
I think several people answered your question already. It takes the same case as the word it modifies.

Date: 2007-02-15 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheetr.livejournal.com
Barring some construction I know nothing about (as a lowly 2nd year student), свой is just the reflexive form of мой. So it done like мой except is refers to one's own.

exаmples:

Миша потерял свой паспорт.

Маша позвонила своей маме.

Date: 2007-02-15 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheetr.livejournal.com
Translations: Misha lost his(own) passport. Masha called her(own) mother.

Date: 2007-02-15 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archaicos.livejournal.com
If it's indeed свои (plural and in exactly this form) then:
именительный/nominative: свои ботинки всегда впору
винительный/accusative: я люблю свои ботинки

Date: 2007-02-16 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] impeller.livejournal.com
I′m a bit unsure if I got the idea… I′ll write down the declension table anyway:

  / anim. / inanim.
И. / свои вещи / свои дети
Р. / своих вещей / своих детей
Д. / своим вещам / своим детям
В. / свои вещи / своих детей
Т. / своими вещами / своими детьми
П. / о своих вещах / о своих детях

Grammar ramblings

Date: 2007-02-16 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhirafov-nyet.livejournal.com
Свой declines just like the other possessive pronouns, which, in turn, decline like adjectives. So treat it like an adjective. If what it's modifying is in the genitive case, it too shall be in the genitive case, and so on.
Also, свои is the plural nominatve/accusitive inanimate. Свой is singular masculine nominative/accusitive inanimate, своя is singluar feminine nominative, and своё is singular neuter nominative/accusitive inanimate.

Re: Grammar ramblings

Date: 2007-02-16 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhirafov-nyet.livejournal.com
Also, please forgive my excessive misspelling of the word "accusative".

Re: Grammar ramblings

Date: 2007-02-16 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhirafov-nyet.livejournal.com
Oh, and I didn't mean all of the possessive pronouns. I just meant the two that look like it: мой & твой. Наш & ваш are kind of different, while его, её & их don't decline at all.

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