[identity profile] je-me-forcis.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
i'm new at russian so forgive my lack of knowledge, but why is ничего pronounced as if it were spelled ничево?

Date: 2007-01-26 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nymphatacita.livejournal.com
I've never heard anyone say it without the T. I'm surrounded by people from the pacific northwest (of various ethnicities, which result in various accents) and the north east, talk to people from CA, often visit my family on the east coast, regularly talk to someone from the midwest... interesting.

Date: 2007-01-26 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nymphatacita.livejournal.com
"innernet" also doesn't show up as an acceptable pronunciation in any of the dictionaries I can find, unlike the evo/ovo thing.




English never claimed to be phonetic. Every Russian instructor I've ever had claimed Russian was phonetic... that's why irregularities surprised me so much when I was beginning. I've gotten so I can usually write the word correctly even if it doesn't sound like it's spelled. You learn with practice.

Date: 2007-01-26 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padruka1988.livejournal.com
Innernet sounds like something a hick would say. :-P But I've never heard of seeciety!

Date: 2007-01-26 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vargtimmen.livejournal.com
It's not. The T is barely audible in most people's speech, especially when "internet" is an adjective. "Internet", "In(t)ernet chatrooms". Very subtle. Compare to (С)пасибо! or Йизык, мичом instead of Язык, мячом.

Date: 2007-01-27 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovimoment.livejournal.com
It's not silent. "t" in the middle of English word is an alveolar flap, not a stop. (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_tap)

You hear this same sound in "butter" - the middle sound is not a "t" or a "d." It just sounds different in "internet" because the "n" is right before it, and the nasalization muffles the sound a bit.

Date: 2007-01-27 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vargtimmen.livejournal.com
Thanks, I knew there was a name for it.

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