Как вас зовут?

[freiburg234.livejournal.com]

Привет народ!

У меня к вам просьба. Не могли бы вы мне сказали, какими образами обращения вы знаете и сами пользуетесь? Имею в виду, на пример, следующее:

1. Привет!
2. Здравствуй(те)!
3. Ребята!
4. Уважаемые/-ый/-ая.....
5. Добрый день / вечер / доброе утро!
6. Любимые/-ый/-ая.....
7. Милые/-ый/-ая.....
8. Граждане/ гражданин/ гражданка
9. Товариши / товариш
10. «Настасья Ивановна» / «Леонид Фёдорович»
11. Батюшка
12. Дятюшка
13. Молодой человек! / Девушка!
14. Старик! / Старуха!

Какие ещё есть?

Если вам не трудно, пожалуйста, скажите мне в каком контексте вы использовали бы данные вами образцы. Конечно, если хотите, вы можете объяснить, (правильное употребление) (как правильно употреблять) вышеупомянтых.

В заключение прошу вас, чтобы вы проверяли мой текст на грамматику и стилевые вопросы.

Заранее спасибо за внимание!.

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[ex-oru427.livejournal.com]

Чувак - Dude
Здарова - similar to Здравствуйте, less polite, unofficial
Чикса - girl, sexy girl (ex: Привет чикса - hey girl)

[korolyeva525.livejournal.com]

1,2,6,7,13

[freiburg234.livejournal.com]

Thanks, these are all good and I'll work them into my vocabulary to be sure.

[asklepij.livejournal.com]

- Привет народ!

Привет, народ!

- Не могли бы вы мне сказали

Не могли бы вы мне сказать

- какими образами обращения вы знаете и сами пользуетесь?

I would say something like "какие способы (maybe типы) обращения вы знаете и какими сами пользуетесь?"

- на пример

например

- 1. Привет!

Really informal. You can use it to talk to your friends. Taking into consideration your nickname, I suppose, that you're from Germany, so "Привет" is exactly like "Hallo", but only for those, mit den du auf "Du" bist (sorry, it's impossible to say it in English).

- 2. Здравствуй(те)!

Здравствуй -- just like the previous one, but a little bit more official. Здравствуйте -- Sie-form of Здравствуй.

- 3. Ребята!

You usually use it to attract the attention of the company you're at. Like: "Ребята, а не пойти ли нам искупаться?"

- 4. Уважаемые/-ый/-ая...

It depends. If you say something like: "Уважаемые жильцы, пожалуйста, соблюдайте тишину", so it's a polite form. But if you nowadays say something like: "Уважаемый, соблюдай(те) тишину"б it'll be considered as a negative connotation.

- 5. Добрый день / вечер / доброе утро!

You can use it in every situation (according to the daypart of course).

- 6. Любимые/-ый/-ая...

Hardly used when speaking.

- 7. Милые/-ый/-ая...

It's o.k. to use it when speaking to women, especially on somу celebrations: "Милые дамы..."

- 8. Граждане/ гражданин/ гражданка
- 9. Товарищи / товарищ

"Товарищ" is still used in the army, "Гражданин/гражданка" is hardly used.

- 10. «Настасья Ивановна» / «Леонид Фёдорович»

You'd use it to speak to an elderly person or to a teacher/boss etc.

- 11. Батюшка
- 12. Дядюшка

Hardly used.

- 13. Молодой человек! / Девушка!

Is used to attract someone's attention. "Девушка, вы потеряли перчатки". "Молодой человек, передайте за проезд, пожалуйста".

- 14. Старик! / Старуха!

It is pretty informal, is usewd to speak to parents, mostly when kidding, or to elderly persons, that you dont respect.

- Какие ещё есть?

A lot of. Just say, why do you need it, cause it depends on the context.

- проверяли

Проверяли means "to check your spelling allways, everyday". What you need is "проверили".

If you have some more questions, you can write me at awlassow (at) yahoo.de. I leave in Germany, and I'm russian, so I think, it could be useful :)

[asklepij.livejournal.com]

Здарова -- is wrong, it is used only as a slang form, mostly in Internet.

Чикса -- you can be beaten up, if you say it to the wrong girl. I dont't know any girl, that I could name "чикса".

[freiburg234.livejournal.com]

Thanks. Think I've heard "Ребята!" once or twice. But I guess those people weren't really in the mix.

Tried "мужик" recently, and the response appeared positive all around. "Да, он наш мужик" was the reply.

[asklepij.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah... My English is awful, but you'll get it. And I certainly live in Germany, not leave :))))

[nugae.livejournal.com]

1 - ok for the spoken language, informal
2 - spoken language, more formal
3 - spoken language, informal. i guess "guys" could become a good equivalent
4 - oficial letters. every time you write "dear ..." we write "Уважаемые/-ый/-ая"
5 - neutral and polite form.
6, 7 - both are too old-fashioned and heroic i guess
8 - not used
9 - not used since 90's
10 - ok for the formal conversation
11 - no
12 - no
13 - ok for the street, shops, etc.
14 - very rude.

[syntinen.livejournal.com]

The first group can be greetings:
Привет! - not official, recommended for friends and those who are equal to you in age, position etc. (classmates and so on) - like hi!
Здравствуй! - common freeting for those to whom you say "ты", здравствуйте - the same, but if you say "вы" to a person or say it to a group
Добрый день/вечер/утро you can say to everybody.

The other are used to address to smb.
Ребята can be used only not officially and to young people
Уважаемый/ая/ые - officially

Милые is used very seldom. For example милые дамы cn be used to address to a group of women when you congratulate them on the 8th of March (women Day in Russia)
Любимый/ая means beloved and not used as an address

Гражданин/ка and товарищ were used mostly in the USSR, now they are not popular
Name and patronimic - common official adress (in Russia is not as customaty to address to people using surmane) or address to people who are older
Батюшка - used to address to a priest
Дядюшка - usually not used
Молодой человек/девушка - common address to a person you don't know, for example, in the street. It's rather stupid, but vary often it doesn't depend on age, if you don't address to an old person
Старик/старуха - never used. If you use it as an address to a person, you will be rude.

There's a problem in Russian language how to address to people, there're no special forms like "mister" and "miss" in English, signore/signora in Italian and so on. You can also use господин/госпожа, it's much better than "cтарик/старуха"

I think so.

[anafignikvapshe.livejournal.com]

12 maybe дядюшка?
14 Старуха! OMG:)

[wire-shock.livejournal.com]

чикса seems to be old hippy slang <= Engl. 'chick'

[asklepij.livejournal.com]

They rather used to say "герла".

[serpent-849.livejournal.com]

When I congratulate my female friends, I usually start postcards/ecards with дорогая. for some some reason i wouldn't use дорогой when congratulating male friends, but дорогие for a group of people sounds all right to me.

[iskrinka-mn.livejournal.com]

Sorry for my bad English, but I only is studying it now.

1 - often, to my friends and in unofficial communication
2 - often, more official than "привет"
3 - never
4 - hardly ever, this is very official
5 - often
6 - to my boy-friend
7 - to my boy-friend
8 - never, this is very official
9 - never
10 - often, to different people, who aren't my friends
11,12 - never (sic! дядюшка)
13 - usualy, if I want to attract attantion of somebody
14 - never, this is very uncorrectly

Also there are:
девчонки! (to my female friends), бабушка (to very old womam), дедушка (to very old man), господа! (very official), уважаемые дамы и господа! (very official = ladies and gantgentlemen), приветик! (to my friends, coquettish)

[wire-shock.livejournal.com]

I agree with the most of what syntinen suggested.
I would only add the following:
милый/ая can be used in addressing tenderly to a boy/girlfriend. Some people consider it a bit corny, some don't.

старик was used as an informal address by the same people who use words like чикса, герла. Barely used these days.

There once was a funny word used as address: батенька, but it's only used jokingly these days (for some reason, it is often used in jokes about doctors, that's how the doctor addresses the male patient; when I come to think of it, doctors in jokes often use old-fashioned/funny forms of address).

There really is a problem in Russia how to address a person you don't know. And people to blame for it are Bolsheviks. I'm not joking: they introduced new forms of address (товарищ - even to a female; гражданин/гражданка), so traditional forms (господин/госпожа) were dropped; and now 'товарищ' and 'гражданин' were dropped in their turn, but old ways seem to have gone for good, so people say молодой человек even to middle-aged males and девушка to females of any (except really old) age.

Uffff, that's finally about it :-) Hope I didn't write TOO much.

[17abel.livejournal.com]

1. Привет! ( Unofficial )
2. Здравствуй(те)! (Official)
3. Ребята! ( also Молодые люди! Парни! Девушки!)
4. Уважаемые/-ый/-ая..... ( in letters or in tost)
5. Добрый день / вечер / доброе утро! ( ewerywhere)
6. Любимые/-ый/-ая..... ( only to boy\girlfriends...)
7. Милые/-ый/-ая.....( Дорогие\ая\ие)
8. Граждане/ гражданин/ гражданка ( очень офицально к незнакомым людям, как правило это все говорят служители закона)
9. Товариши / товариш ( old form устаревшее... сейчас это сарказам или шуточное)
10. «Настасья Ивановна» / «Леонид Фёдорович» ( ewerywhere)
11. Батюшка ( в церкви )
12 дядюшка - лучше просто дядь Коль, Сереж, и проч...
13. Молодой человек! / Девушка! (леди, мэм, барышня (I use Барышня)
14. Старик! / Старуха! - некорректно бабуль, бабушка, дедушка...



Еще обращения -
1 НАРОД!, ЛЮДИ! Пипл! - ко всем и скразу.
2 Господа - оч распространено.

[freiburg234.livejournal.com]

Once again, thank you all for your remarkable insights.

As it was mentioned that "чикса" could meet with disapproval, I'd like to ask you about another term, one that I've often read and seen in text books. However, in my experience, using this word to refer to someone can meet with disapproval.

The word is "секретарша".

I recently wanted to ask a lady if she was "Mr. Y's secretary."

The woman did answer to the affirmative, but she gave me a strange look. Later I asked her if something was wrong. She explained to me that she preferred to be referred to her as "секретарь" or, better yet, "помощник".

Any input on what that was about?

Not too firm on such subtleties in Russian, so I can't say for sure what hornet's nest it was that I might have stepped into.

[freiburg234.livejournal.com]

Барышня - Looks really cool. I've seen it in books, but I've never heard it spoken (like lots of words in my vocabulary).

Are you sure that it's modern enough to be used and you won't get any funny looks for using it?

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[asklepij.livejournal.com]

It can be either polite or contemptuous, so I would use it carefully :)

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[asklepij.livejournal.com]

The word is actually o.k., but if you are talking to a person (not about a person), you're supposed to say "секретарь".

[17abel.livejournal.com]

I know, but I speak English bedly... I am sorry.

[oryx_and_crake]

I think that this lady associates "секретарша" with someone bottle-blonded, permed, frilly and stupid whose main responsibility is to sleep with her boss. This is a stereotype, of course, but may be partly true (not about her personally, I mean, but it happens that high echelone managers sometines have a "секретарша" for this sole purpose). Anyway, the official name of the position is always секретарь, never секретарша. Помощник is PA.