Place names

[redneonred.livejournal.com]

Hello,

черёмушки- I have read that this stands for cherry trees, but only in western books and articles, and I do not know where they get that meaning from. Is anyone familiar with the area, and if so if the name means anything, 'something spot of beauty'?

Thank you

Comments

[oryx_and_crake]

Черемушки is a diminutive for черемуха (bird cherry, crab cherry) trees, not cherry as such which is a very different species. It was initially a name for the neighbourhood in Moscow where new (cheap and not very good quality) blocks of flats were built at the times of Khrushchev. Soon the name became common for all the neighborhoods consisting of this type of buildings, and they were built everywhere all over USSR, from Uzbekistan to Syberia.

Черёмуха

[natha1ie.livejournal.com]

is bird cherry tree as my dictionary says, not cherry. Черёмушка may be diminutive form of Черёмуха, for example in folk songs. Черёмушки is plural for Черёмушка.

Новые Черёмушки is a region situated in south-south-west of Moscow.

[sashka-vyshka.livejournal.com]

Черемуха - bird cherry tree. черёмушка - a small tree, or a pet name for the tree. черёмушки - plural for it. Also name of district in Moscow (there was a village with the same name there earlier)

[vedma.livejournal.com]

not relevant but as we are on the subject of Черёмуха - does any other counties have those trees and do people eat the fruit or is it just Russians?
I miss it so much and when i mention it in England, everyone looks at me like i am from another planet :)

[oryx_and_crake]

"do people eat the fruit or is it just Russians?"
I love your way of putting a question :-)

[mophu.livejournal.com]

черемуха isn't fruit tree. It has just flowers :)

[coldrainbow.livejournal.com]

but those spring flowers become berries every July or August:))

[mophu.livejournal.com]

Are you sure? Never seen them.

[vedma.livejournal.com]

about the tree - http://www.british-trees.com/guide/birdcherry.htm

fruit -
btw Михаил Боярский rocks! ;D

[mophu.livejournal.com]

I'm not good in botany but I thought the whole my life that tree you've pictured is... Черноплодка. I don't know how to say it in English.

P.S. Yeah! Бояра rulezzzz! :)

[oryx_and_crake]

Черноплодка looks VERY different.

[mophu.livejournal.com]

Yes, you are right! I confused everything :-\ Thanks for explanation :)

[coldrainbow.livejournal.com]

it's small dark burgundy almost brown cherry-like berries. they taste strange ;-/ yes I ate them:) do you know the word "вяжет" in English?

[oryx_and_crake]

puckery taste

[mophu.livejournal.com]

I've just remembered that I've eaten them too :) I'm not sure but may be "вяжет" means "constrict".
Are you Russian?

[coldrainbow.livejournal.com]

looks like the word is "tangy" - tangy persimmon.
I'm Jewish, is it important?:)

[mophu.livejournal.com]

"Tangy" means острый, резкий. So it's not adequate equivalent.
It's not important. I asked 'cause you Russian was realy good :)

[oryx_and_crake]

The word initially brought about an image of "progress and wealth brought to the people by Soviet power" because before that most Soviet people lived in truly horrible conditions (think shared apartments, one room per family, one kitchen and washroom per 10-20 families). Khrushchev's building campaign was praised and sung in many a book and movie. However, later the word became a synonym of cheap and low-quality housing.

[mophu.livejournal.com]

up

[redneonred.livejournal.com]

Thanks everyone, though I knew all about the village and later planned neighbourhood (i have to give a presentation tonight!), i didn't trust those architectural historians and their cherry trees, but it makes grammatical sense now. We have those trees in england (well, there familiar on looking up the tree name) but i didn't know they produced fruit!

[oryx_and_crake]

They are not exactly fruit - just very small black berries about 0.5 cm in diameter, most of which is a stone.

[vedma.livejournal.com]

they are yummy though, the problem is that if you eat too many of them you will be constipated :D
(talking from experience)

[basile.livejournal.com]

In 80-90-years Черёмушки was an academic community (area) in the Moscow. High-tech and high-science. ;)