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Thank you, but may I remind that the working language of this community is English. Some people here just don't know Russian well enough to understand, so I will be very grateful if you provide an English translation.

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prosto-los.livejournal.com

You're right, I apologize.
At the provided link you may state your opinion regarding the discussed shift of "russian" accounts.

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alamar.livejournal.com

Feeding trolls, yeah?

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laier.livejournal.com

Yeah. KGB still watching. Oh my god!

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ex-eugzol340.livejournal.com

=)))

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old-radist.livejournal.com

If KGB wouldn't still watching, there wouldn't be KGB.

But there is.

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ars-longa.livejournal.com

Fear! Fear! SUP the Terrible is coming for you!

(eye roll)

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khathi.livejournal.com

In Soviet Russia Livejournal writes in You!

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laier.livejournal.com

In Soviet Russia SUP eats YOU!

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gordin.livejournal.com

Lol.

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temcat.livejournal.com

Think about it like this: how can they determine that your LJ is mostly Cyrillic without having access to your entries, including friends-only ones? This means that they'll have this access before you have a chance to opt either in or out.

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They determine it without ever reading your journal. They read YOUR BRAIN before you post anything.

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temcat.livejournal.com

Thank you for your valuable insight.

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You're very welcome.
I'm always glad to help others!

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robomarkov.livejournal.com

I have a tinfoil hat for events just like this!

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Oh, hilarious. Just don't complain when your identity gets stolen or when someone uses your credit card to pay for a sex service in Thailand.

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ilia-yasny.livejournal.com

I would like to remind that SixApart already has access to all you entries, public, friends-only and private, because the company is keeping them in its databases. Your personal information would have already been stolen or sold if anyone had been interested in it.

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padruka1988.livejournal.com

Yeah, if you live in America (and probably in other countries), the government can listen to your phone conversations and read your E-mails.... What's stopping them from reading your blog? Don't post plans for building a bomb or anything in your LJ, and you'll be fine.

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svyatogor.livejournal.com

yeah, come on. of course they are desperate to read you private entry on how you spent last night and sell it. it's ridiculous!

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jillain.livejournal.com

what precious data can be stolen from the blog? Who puts really precious secret information to blog? =)

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KGB agents! Oooops, I meant FSB of course. :-)

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jillain.livejournal.com

KGB and FSB and SBU will never put their info to blog! =)

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ex-eugzol340.livejournal.com

May be one should read ALL the text from first link? =)

Will there be a way to opt out of having my journal transfered?
No journals are being transferred; it's just a change in how the site will be supported. You will be able to opt out of getting the new Russian features, and to continue to be supported by LiveJournal/Six Apart.

Will information from these journals be given to the Russian government? Personal information?
No. Not in any way that would not happen today, such as a court-ordered subpoena. SUP is acting as our agent and will be bound by our Privacy Policy

Will they have access to Russian users' private account information?
Again, only under our privacy policy, and bound by the same terms.

And so on, so on. Nevertheless, one could choose whom he wants to belive - some bloggers wanted to do anything eccentric and "make a sensation" OR SixApart. In fact, everybody already had chosen to believe SixApart when decided to create blog here =)

If lots of people having troubles with popularity and/or reasoning and/or something else would leave LJ - I won't be feeling bad. I like my blog service - LiveJournal - and I'm interested in new services that SUP could offer. And if I don't like these services I would just "opt out of getting the new Russian features, and continue to be supported by LiveJournal/Six Apart" =)

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It is not a question of transferring a journal. It is a question of who has access to it and what he does with this data.

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With all due respect, do you really think that your data is that valuable? Looks like your soviet past still haunts you.

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serialcondition.livejournal.com

value has nothing to do with it
with all due respect, it's about basic privacy; erosion of civic liberties starts with people who see it as "harmless"

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I'm not sure about you, but I honestly don't care about civic liberties in Russia. I don't live there anymore and not going to in the future.
If I'm not happy with livejournal, I will find another blog provider - there are plenty.
Furthermore, I'm not sharing confidential private stuff in my blogs. Do you?

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serialcondition.livejournal.com

it's not a matter of "confiential private stuff" -- anything I deem to be private should be private even if it's about my breakfast

and one cannot care about civic liberties according to geography -- the whole idea of civic liberties is that they should extend to everyone, Russia included

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Sorry, but unlike Don Quixote I can't afford wasting my time fighting windmills. There are countries with much bigger civil rights problems like China, where the whole Wikipedia website was banned and yet no one seems to be concerned.
Yes, in ideal world we should have democracy everywhere and civic liberties for everyone. But we don't. You wanna change it? - go ahead.
I better spend my time and effort elsewhere, because civic liberties somehow don't fill my stomach during lunchtime :-)

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serialcondition.livejournal.com

do with your time whatever you wish
you need not justify it to me

goodbye

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Thank you for your concern.
Let us know when democracy and civil rights prevail.

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wolk-off.livejournal.com

Six Apart has said access right now. LiveJournal as a standalone company had it in the past. So what? ANY Internet user from Russia is in a situation when ANY data he/she exchanges wit the Internet, can be viewed and stored and used by government agencies, because ANY Russian ISP is connected to SORM, the FSB-controlled system of real-time Web monitoring, and nobody knows whether SORM is fuctioning at this exact moment or not (though, according to the law, it only must function under the state of emergency declared by the federal authorities.) So what? In Russia, it's either you are paranoid enough to NOT to use Internet at all, or you use it -- and the Heck with them all, they will get you anyway if they choose to, Internet or no Internet.

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nemica.livejournal.com

Well, it looks like for some people Nisik's more scary than all FSB, SORM and maybe even KGB. :)

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I am not in Russia, as you well know. And my main worry is not the KGB but dubious uses of my private info (including a credit card number, by the way) by whoever likes to have it.

Also, I don't like the idea of buying a service from a company whose CEO calls part of its clients cunts ("мудаки") as Nosik did very recently. Such manner in customers treatment should not be encouraged.

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oikade.livejournal.com

Thank-you for this. It's good to know.

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hahaha

Once this happens, no one can guarantee any kind of privacy for your personal info.

= Who can guarantee it now?

Your data may be stolen and abused or sold to whoever wants it.

= why you so sure it was not stolen years ago?

I prefer sclerosis, it's a bit boring but anyway better than KGB-style paranoia

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As i said above, my main worry is not the KGB but dubious uses of my private info (including a credit card number, by the way) by whoever likes to have it. Also, I don't like the idea of buying a service from a company whose CEO calls part of its clients cunts ("мудаки") as Nosik did very recently in a LJ posting during the discussion of this issue. Such manner in customers treatment should not be encouraged.

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he just too honest, which is not so bad.

btw, why u think Nosik could sell your personal data? Do you know any facts which can prove that? or it's just your perception of the person? but it's looks like kind of defamation

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It is my right, as a customer, to choose which service I purchase and from who. I don't have to give any reasons for my choice and no one has the right to replace the service I have chosen with another one or switch me to a different provider without my conscent.

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have you actually read your service agreement? was it broken by the decision to have local management? and anyway your customer rights is not a reason to tell that Nosik will sell your personal data.

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What do you mean by "local"? I do not live in Russia. And switching my service to another provider based only on the fact that I write in Russian is a language-based discrimination.

BTW I never said that "Nosik will sell my personal data" - please don't put words into my mouth. I said that my data is not safe with a Russian-based company because the concept of privacy is nonexistent in Russia, the privacy laws, if any, are non-enforceable, and the data can easily get stolen or sold.

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It's not a discrimination, it doesn't change your service level agreement, if you have fobia of Russia it's not a reason to count that actually.

Have you any comparison of level stolen data in US and in Russia for example? Why do you think in US your data is safer?

Just to inform you, in Russia exist law of private and personal information, which is generally the same as in US.

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in Russia exist law of private and personal information, which is generally the same as in US.
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HA HA HA HA HA

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ok, will leave you with your paranoia

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P.S. By the way, some Russian-speaking US citizens are going to sue SixApart.

If you are interested, they describe their reasons here:
http://mkay422.livejournal.com/349611.html
http://mkay422.livejournal.com/351163.html

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