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thanks for that.
shame it does not tell you what mistakes were made.

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you're welcome.

I wish it told which mistakes were made too.

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botanik1.livejournal.com

You can see the answers if you look at the source ("view source") for the test page. They are in the Result javascript funtion and look like this:
if( q1.a[1].checked) {answ++}
if( q2.a[3].checked) {answ++}
if( q3.a[1].checked) {answ++}
That means the answer to first question is "b" (it's zero based),
second question - "c", third question - "b" etc

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makes sence.
thanks!

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serpent-849.livejournal.com

hehe, I'm a native speaker but got only 49 points :D

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zidane-triball.livejournal.com

Забей! It's not possible!

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serpent-849.livejournal.com

I've found my mistake, it's in this question:

42. Никто из студенток не ... отвечать.
a) хотели b) хотело c) хотел d) хотела

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serpent-849.livejournal.com

oops, no, it's in question 35.

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sfrolov.livejournal.com

Никто из них не хотел отвечать.

All correct

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i did wonder about that one... is it C?

it is defiantly C if it was "Никто из студентов не.."

actually thinking about it if to change word to "Никто из девушек не" it sounds right with A.

Help pls or my poor brain will explode :)

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no
"Никто из девушек не" sounds right only with C.

In this sentence the verb "хотеть" is refered to noun "Никто".
Look analog sentence:
"Миша не ... отвечать."

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I got 47!!!

But i'm not a native speaker though =\

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anybody knows analog community for english who studies french?

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i got 47 also. i was native speaker 15 years ago ;)

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that's reassuring, to me at least.

where are you living now?

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been in UK since 1992 :)
wasn't any russians around for me to speak to those days, so i have became very rusty at it :(

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mia-l.livejournal.com

the same :) but I was inattentive...

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ex-pelicano906.livejournal.com

native russian, 50 of 50
lucky bastard ))))

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50 of 50 too
(native Russian)

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qwertyflo.livejournal.com

The question #27 is not honest. 3 of 4 versions is right.

Я не знаю, ... он ходил вчера.
Я не знаю, куда он ходил вчера
Я не знаю, где он ходил вчера.
Я не знаю, сколько он ходил вчера.

8)))

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but the right answer is clear

the other two grammatically rught, but not used

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hrisanta.livejournal.com

All three could be used. :)
Во всяком случае ни один вариант в глаза не бросается.

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oryx_and_crake

All three look perfectly OK to me.

Я не знаю, где он ходил вчера, но он пришел весь грязный.
I don't know where he walked yesterday but he came home all dirty.

Я не знаю, сколько он ходил вчера, но он пришел смертельно усталый.
I don't know for how long he walked yesterday but he came home deadly tired.

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yes
they look perfect in appropriate context
but only one look perfect without any context

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spazzling21.livejournal.com

Я не знаю, где он ходил вчера, но он пришел весь грязный.

Why isn't it: Я не знаю, КУДА он ходил вчера, но он пришел весь грязный.

Doesn't the motion verb ходить always take куда???

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oryx_and_crake

Normally yes, but not necessarily. "куда" assumes that your walk had a particular destination. You could walk around without going anywhere in particular - then they could ask you "Где ты ходил(а)?"

Я не знаю, КУДА он ходил вчера, но он пришел весь грязный. - is also correct but it has a slightly different meaning - it means that he went to a particular location and presumably got dirty there (or on the way), and then he returned home... something like that.

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spazzling21.livejournal.com

Okay, I get it... So где is if they walked in a certain area (like downtown or the park) and then куда is walking to somewhere (a store or the library)... Yes?

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oryx_and_crake

Something like that. But if you walked to downtown and back, you could still use куда - because there was a particular direction.

An example from "Three little pigs":

Three little pigs sing a song in which they say "Где ты ходишь, серый волк?" - Where are you walking/wandering, the grey wolf? Meaning that the wolf is wandering elsewhere and they don't know where.
Compare it with - Куда пошел волк? - Волк пошел к домику третьего поросенка.
- Where did the wolf go? - He went to the third pig's house.

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moa1918.livejournal.com

I could only answer the first question. :p I think I'll have to wait a while until taking that test...
Moa

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I understood most of the beginning stuff...most of my problem was vocab. I didn't understand some of the sentences...so I guessed. :-)

28/50...That's failing in my school.

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but the grammer does become pretty advanced.
I'm sure you're doing fine for your level.

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I was ranked pre-intermediate. I'm self-taught though...so although dissappointing, it's better than what I got a while ago.

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pretty impressive though for being self taught.

keep it up.

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I shall, thank you! :-) Other than vocab, I word things in russian as I do english, unless I know for sure how to say it in russian. Except, apparently my wording is horrible and not understood in russian. Do you know of any sources that can fix that?

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As far as I know, russian word order is pretty liberal, but that is only if you get the cases correct.

As far as learning what is the most accepted word order... the only thing I really did was surround myself with native speakers and living in russia. Eventually, your ear will just pick it up.

If that's not possible for you, I suggest finding radio broadcasts (BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/i/) is decent, if not a bit bland. here's another list of broadcasts (http://www.multilingualbooks.com/online-radio-russian.html#russia)), and even reading. Phrasing (and vocabulary for that matter) in literature is not always the same as for colloquial speach, but it's a pretty good way of learning.

Even if you're at a beginning level, when listening, pick just a handfull of words you don't know from a book or radio show, and learn them. In the beginning it seems daunting, but in the end, if you persever, it's pretty cool. (Although make sure you're hearing correctly =p)

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I haven't done that before. I'll try it...but it's likely I'd space out. :-)

And what I meant by wording is the way they say things. Instead of saying "That's always been my problem", they say ,"To speak - that always was my problem" or instead of "I've been here for 5 days", it's "I already here 5 of days".

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wolk-off.livejournal.com

>instead of "I've been here for 5 days", it's "I already here 5 of days".

It's not "instead," it's the way how things work in Russian. You cannot translate an exact English sentence word by word, and get a nice Russian sentence in the end. It just doesn't work. Being translated exactly, word by word, "I've been here for 5 days" results in a ridiculous "Я имел бывал здесь для пять дней", which is just nonsense.
The only way to get it is to decide that the way Russians word their thoughts is not "instead" of a "normal" word order - but THIS is THE normal word order of Russian language... and then practice it, practice it, practice it. Read, hear, speak. There's no other way to get it, or I haven't heard of one :)

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It's a bit arduous to explain my dilemma. I'm not always sure how they would explain their thoughts...

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wolk-off.livejournal.com

The only way to be more sure is to read a lot in Russian, especially fiction books, and to hear as much spoken Russian as possible (Web radio and podcasts help a lot.)

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Shall do then.

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I like

wolk_off's response.

I think if you really want to learn a language, you have to just let it become part of you. In the beginning it helped me to think of my sentences first in english (for example when I wanted to say "I am 22 years old" in russian, I'd immediately think "to me is 22 years") but in the end, it should just be naturual and accepted as the way russian is put together. In order for it to become truely natural, practice is a must.

gl!!

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