Programs- MSU

[jadore-vin.livejournal.com]

Привет! I was just wondering if anyone has ever done this program located at the Lomonosov
Moscow State University (MSU) campus and has any comments about the program's academic value, or the university itself and its facilities and accommodations.

Comments

[zufall.livejournal.com]

MGU (from the Russian abbreviation) is quite prestigious, probably the most prestigious university in Russia in general (excepting MGIMO, another story) -- not a guarantee of their Russian-for-foreigners program but a generally positive comment. I only went there a couple of times and found it to be kind of annoying in terms of the cafeteria (expensive, bad) and location, but whatever - it's Russia.

Amusement at a section from About Us: "There are no bad or good cultures. One culture could not be better than another. All of them are simply different. And in this sense Russian culture with its thousand-year history is a part of the modern civilization." Oh, those Russians...

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

> probably the most prestigious university in Russia in general
> (excepting MGIMO, another story)

Ask!

> I only went there a couple of times and found it to be kind of annoying
> in terms of the cafeteria (expensive, bad)

Come on - being from the motherland of McDonald's and complaining about bad food?!.

> and location, but whatever - it's Russia.

How the location of MSU is worse than the one of, say, Harvard or Oxford?
And what it has to do with Russia?

> Oh, those Russians...

Yes, we are such!

[zufall.livejournal.com]

Haha, uh... I've heard different things from different Russians about MGU. I knew people from Petersburg who swear they got a better education there, for example.

And I meant the location of MGU within Moscow isn't superconvenient because the metro line going out there is stupid and slow.

And Russians will be Russians ;)

[jadore-vin.livejournal.com]

Its come to my attention that the program isn't really offically part of MGU, but simply operates on its campus and shares some is its staff.

As far as the location, I can see on the metro map that its pretty far out. Does anyone know how long the trip takes by metro? or how much the trip costs by cab/chastnik?

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

> And I meant the location of MGU within Moscow

I meant the same.

> isn't superconvenient because the metro line
> going out there is stupid and slow.

Funny. It could be stupid, but slow?
I think your memory betrayed you.
It is as fast and frequent as any other metro line.

And for Christ's sake, buy yourself a used Russian car for $20 and enjoy driving around and not relying on public transportation.

> And Russians will be Russians ;)

Big time!

[kart.livejournal.com]

For liberal arts, MGU is fine. For engineering, http://www.bmstu.ru/.

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

Come on, don't misinform the foreigners.
MVTU is quite a mediocre engineering school, and always has been, at least for last 50 years or so.

[kart.livejournal.com]

True, but unlike Phystech, Bauman has programs for visiting students and foreigners. They're also right next to a Metro station ;)

[temcat.livejournal.com]

buy yourself a used Russian car for $20 and enjoy driving around

Somehow I feel there is a contradiction between buying a used Russian car and enjoying driving around ;-)

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

Not really.
The feel of enjoyment and happiness is in your head, not somewhere in your car.

Besides, 500-dollar Ford Escort or Dodge Neon or Honda Civic (the cars commonly driven by US students) are not much better that 20-dollar Lada, believe me.

[temcat.livejournal.com]

The feel of enjoyment and happiness is in your head, not somewhere in your car

Fair, but my post wasn't about prestige, if that's what you mean.

Besides, 500-dollar Ford Escort or Dodge Neon or Honda Civic (the cars commonly driven by US students) are not much better that 20-dollar Lada, believe me.

Do they break as often? :-)

[temcat.livejournal.com]

BTW what is this "dollar" thing you speak of? :-)

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

Elaborate, please

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

> Fair, but my post wasn't about prestige, if that's what you mean.

No, I mean the happiness and enjoyment.

> Do they break as often? :-)

More or less so.
E.g. FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily

[temcat.livejournal.com]

I mean, what is this "dollar", 20 (twenty) of which would buy you a Lada?

[temcat.livejournal.com]

>> Do they break as often? :-)

>More or less so.
>E.g. FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily

OK. So is this experience really an enjoyment for a person interested in driving, not Fixing & Repairing?

Besides, the choice of sufficiently cheap used foreign cars in Moscow isn't limited by the makes you listed here. And you can buy one that won't break daily.

Anyway I was just poking fun, and you took it too seriously. I presume you're just being "patriotic" here.

And this is getting offtopic...

[zufall.livejournal.com]

I can't answer about the cab, because it's been years since I lived in Moscow/Russia and I rarely took cabs anyway, but the metro took... uh... 25-30 minutes to get to the center? It goes over some bridge and get all rickety and annoying and sometimes pitch black, or did when I was there. It might be better now.

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

> Anyway I was just poking fun, and you took it too seriously

You've apparently gotten fooled by someone, dude.

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

A dollar is a dollar, and a Lada is a rotten 20-year-old Lada.

[temcat.livejournal.com]

who would that be?

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

Some bloody bastards who make fun of you, I guess.

[temcat.livejournal.com]

Hmm, can't see any. OK, whatever :-)

[temcat.livejournal.com]

Oh, I see.

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

Maybe they are hiding inside you skull?

[b0bb.livejournal.com]

"r" is missing

[aliamosca.livejournal.com]

The problem is that Physteh and Bauman are tecnical universities. You can study there or phisics o maths...MGU has all the departments, and there is a special department "russian language for foreigners".
You can see the main building of MgU on my picture.

[nominals.livejournal.com]

I'm studyding at Russian right now at МГУ. I've only had one class so far but it was pretty intense. If you'd like, you can email me with more questions and I'll let you know how things go further into the course. I've only been here a week but I absolutely LOVE Russia so far, despite the snow and the cold weather and the stares. ;)

write zarla77 ataol.com if interested