Russian History References

[zombie-laika.livejournal.com]

Hey, everybody. I have to write my first paper in Russian. The topic is Иван Грозный and his lovey опричники (our class just watched the Sergei Eisenstein movies). I'm supposed to find all of my information in Russian. Does anyone know of any online history resources that would be suitable for a third-year Russian student?

Comments

[russian-bob.livejournal.com]

Go to: http://yandex.ru/
enter to the search line: Иван Грозный & опричники
click to "Найти" button
And it will give you as many links as you can possibly read.
:)

[oryx_and_crake]

Yes, that's a good advice; just keep off any stuff with the name Фоменко in it. (He is a mathematician who has his own crazy ideas about world history and tries to push loads of crap on people who don't know history too well in the first place.)

[kehlen-crow.livejournal.com]

Well I disagree with the phrase "crazy ideas" but it is not the subject of the discussion.

You may find his ideas interesting but don't say a word about them in OFFICIAL history class :P

[mishkka.livejournal.com]

http://monarchs.narod.ru/ivan.htm

[gvadelupa.livejournal.com]

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%93%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9

[portugalist.livejournal.com]

hm... usually all Russian historical texts are written in a vary strange manner, that even native-speakers cannot understand them... ;)

good luck in searching!

[insaint.livejournal.com]

I've never had that problem...

[portugalist.livejournal.com]

oh, you haven't read all those crap stuff our Dean (= professor of Modern Russian History) made us read... sometimes I couldn't catch the idea of the whole text... You know that in Russia all those scientists have their own point of view on all the historical events. Сколько людей - столько мнений ;-)

[oryx_and_crake]

http://www.lib.ru/HISTORY/KLYUCHESKIJ/history.txt
- look for ЛЕКЦИЯ XXIX and further.

http://www.lib.ru/HISTORY/SOLOVIEV/solv06.txt
- look for ОПРИЧНИНА

[russian-bob.livejournal.com]

http://rulers.narod.ru/grozny/grozny1.htm

One of really good Sites in Russian history

[colonelrabin.livejournal.com]

http://www.hrono.ru/

Especially concerning Ivan IV - http://www.hrono.ru/biograf/ivan4.html

Please take into account following:

1. The history is nowhere free of politics, and in Russia too. Therefore, a plenty of explanations and interpretations exist. A discussion about histoty (say, e.g. was Stalin a monster or a genius?) - is till now a hot topic in Russia.

The proposed URL is some "patriotic" and often even a bit chauvinistic, but really full of info.

2. Please look the whole page opened by the latter link: 3 (three) articles are presented on the same page, with various interpretations of Ivan's life, policy and role.

Oh the Irony

[hello-nasty.livejournal.com]

The funny thing is I saw this on livejournal and I was like "Oh man, my class is doing that too how weird..." and then I looked at your user info... and then I realized -hey, you're in my class.

[serialcondition.livejournal.com]

just watch some movies
Eisenstein -- Ivan the Terrible in two parts
Gaidai -- "Ivan Vasilievich Meniaet Professiiu" sold in English as "Ivan Vasilievich -- Back to the Future"

[oryx_and_crake]

The second one is very nice and funny but it can hardly serve as a historical and educational source.

[serialcondition.livejournal.com]

true but it's still good and marginally relevant

The irony continues...

[missa-gorightry.livejournal.com]

I thought, Hey, that sounds like Stalina's 301 class... I looked at your info, evidently it is!

I didn't hold to the finding information in Russian thing. Nothing bad happened to me :)

[bacr.livejournal.com]

1) > Ivan the Terrible

do not translate world Грозный as terrible (which is inaccurate and biased),
but tunder-like (exact)

2) Keep in mind the real estimates of human losses (and the number of executions)
in that time Russia and in western countries (much, much more higher, lol).

3) Mention the parlament, ..., suppresion of nobles, ..., privite enterprises

4) Sergei Eisenstein movies have olmost nothing with realty,
as well as Leo Tolstoi stroies (war and peace ;)

[bacr.livejournal.com]

PS.

the KEY is suppression of nobles,
and nobles (бояре) vs common folks (земство, купцы...) and tzar.