[identity profile] real-h8t.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
how do you say, "i'm learning russian on my own" (ie, not through a class but through personal study?)
and how do you say, "i'm not russian" (for a girl)

Date: 2005-10-04 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fischele.livejournal.com
1. Я учу русский самостоятельно.
2. Я не русская.

Date: 2005-10-04 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zloizloi.livejournal.com
"i'm learning russian on my own": Я изучаю русский язык самостоятельно
"i'm not russian": Я - не русская

Date: 2005-10-04 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aciel.livejournal.com
What's the dash mean?

Date: 2005-10-04 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpelkey.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that it signifies the lack of a verb of being.

Date: 2005-10-04 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aciel.livejournal.com
Well, right, but what are the rules regarding its use? I've never seen it before.

Date: 2005-10-05 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moon-aka-sun.livejournal.com
Про тире (http://www.rusyaz.ru/pr/ptr.html), ещё (http://www.everyday.com.ua/digilet/rusrules.htm#0070) (both sites are in Russian, sorry).

Date: 2005-10-05 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lainar.livejournal.com
according to the rules of russian punctuation you don't need to use dash if the sentence starts with the pronoun. So it is not nessesary and I would even say it is slightly incorrect to use it. But some russian people do that and it doesn't make any misunderstanding.)

Date: 2005-10-05 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fint.livejournal.com
тире не ставится, если подлежащее выражено личным местоимением.
тире не ставится, если перед сказуемым стоит частица "не"

Date: 2005-10-05 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-v-ches.livejournal.com
That is:
You don't use dash when subject is a personal pronoun.
You don't use dash when predicate is used with particle "не".

So "Я - не русская" is not correct, because subject "Я" is a personal pronoun. "Я не русская" is the correct one.

Date: 2005-10-05 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-mist.livejournal.com
In fact, also incorrect because of 'не'. Thus, incorrectness is doubled - which does not make it correct, though :-)

Date: 2005-10-04 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orloffm.livejournal.com
Special books for studying languages are often called "самоучитель". It's very likely for someone to say "я занимаюсь по самоучителю" or something like that.

Date: 2005-10-05 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fludietrich.livejournal.com
Я не русская - I'm not an ethnic Russian.
Я не россиянка - I'm not a Russian citizen.

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