Punctuation
Sep. 29th, 2005 10:44 pmCommas:
When to use them, when not to use them?
And during the process of figuring the rules out--does it look worse to use too many commas or too few?
When to use them, when not to use them?
And during the process of figuring the rules out--does it look worse to use too many commas or too few?
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Date: 2005-09-30 05:50 am (UTC)but if you remember all the rules, it's possible to write right :)
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Date: 2005-09-30 06:55 am (UTC)Try to ask more specific questions on punctuation usage, like "how to use commas with parenthetical clauses," and I'm sure we could be of more help.
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Date: 2005-09-30 07:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-30 09:10 am (UTC)1) within a clause, you have to use it between homogenous articles, but NOT before the conjunction "и" (also "да" when it means same as "и") - unless there are more than one of it in the frase, like "На столе яблоки, конфеты и груши" - cf. "На столе яблоки, и конфеты, и груши"
2) you are to pose commas on both sides of a gerung or gerund frase "Мальчик, стоя у стола, читает книгу"; but if a single gerund notifies just a mode of acting, commas are not obligatory "Мальчик читает стоя"
3) a participle frase is to be serarated on both sides when it is after the word it relates to, a single participle is not to be separated "Мальчик, читающий книгу, стоит у стола", "Читающий книгу мальчик стоит у стола", "Читающий мальчик стоит у стола", "Мальчик читающий стоит у стола" - the latter sounds a bit awkward, as if you classified boys as those who read books and those who don't :)
4) within a compound sentence, ALL clauses are normally separated by commas "Поют птицы, и шумит ручей"; but if some frase belongs to both clauses, the comma may be omitted "В лесу поют птицы и шумит ручей"
5) you are to separate the frase or word you are appealling to a person with "Мама, возьми тарелку", "Оля, возьми тарелку"
6) introductory frases are alwaya separated on both sides "Наверное, это интересно", "Во-первых, не кричи, во-вторых, мы это уже слышали от тебя"
7) comparative frases are separated on both sides "Он смотрел на них, как пойманный зверек"
I believe it's all I can remember now. There are lots of more exact rules, and you really should better take a good textbook. Unfortunately, all I can advize you is in Russian, but may be it helps?
http://www.rusyaz.ru/pr/ - an almost complete list of cases, there is also orthography there;
http://repetitor.1c.ru/online/disp.asp?2;0 - an online repetitor
http://www.gramma.ru/RUS/?id=5.0 - one more perfect sorce of information
http://orel.rsl.ru/archiv/sekret_titl.htm - this site is under construction, but the book they are going to publish is an extremely useful one: our old textbook for russian schoolchildren
PS: please forgive my poor english punctuation :)