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learn_russianhey, i'm getting tattoos on my right and left wrists in a few weeks, and i want them to say "right" and "wrong" in russian, does anyone know how that would look?
edit All right, since a lot of people are making assumptions that the tattoo idea was a pun, which it wasn't.. I'm switching the words to my second choice.. Which is "Love" and "Hate". Thank you all for the help, except for those with OUTSTANDING bad attitudes who make this community a little less friendly.
edit All right, since a lot of people are making assumptions that the tattoo idea was a pun, which it wasn't.. I'm switching the words to my second choice.. Which is "Love" and "Hate". Thank you all for the help, except for those with OUTSTANDING bad attitudes who make this community a little less friendly.
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Date: 2005-09-15 06:33 pm (UTC)неправильно - wrong
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Date: 2005-09-15 06:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 06:43 pm (UTC)you're always welcome)
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Date: 2005-09-15 06:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 07:10 pm (UTC)Do you realize that the pun correct/right-side is lost?
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Date: 2005-09-15 07:12 pm (UTC)верно / неверно
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Date: 2005-09-15 07:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 07:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 07:45 pm (UTC)It only translates into correct/incorrect.
You can try правая-неправая.
That pretty much preserves all English meanings, including the pun.
Also I am still suprprised someone would want it to be inscribed on his wrists forever.
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Date: 2005-09-15 07:52 pm (UTC)and it's a long story with meaning behind it.
i'm debating between russian and persian, i'm half iranian and a quarter russian, so i'm debating which ancesters i want to honor.
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Date: 2005-09-15 07:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 07:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 07:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 08:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 08:02 pm (UTC)правый is right or just
as in "за правое дело" - "for the just cause"
If we argue and you are right and I am wrong, I will say "ты прав, а я неправа", not "ты правильный, а я неправильная".
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Date: 2005-09-15 08:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 08:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 08:49 pm (UTC)"wrong answer" can be translated as "неверный ответ"
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Date: 2005-09-15 08:57 pm (UTC)To make the long story short, you MAY translate "wrong answer" as "неверный ответ", but this is not the only possible way to say so.
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Date: 2005-09-15 09:04 pm (UTC)"love"
and
"hate"
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Date: 2005-09-15 11:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-15 11:31 pm (UTC)it's not signifying anything negative. it's just a personal/emotional reminder.
you are being a downer because you are misunderstanding what i'm going at, and instead are trying to make it into some sort of insult.
and you're right, they are my wrists. and i'm not 'ruining' them. i consider tattoos beautiful things. i'm sorry if you can't keep your negative opinion to yourself.
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Date: 2005-09-15 11:33 pm (UTC)That is a kinda harsh thing to say. (but it was funny anyways!)
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Date: 2005-09-16 12:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-16 12:09 am (UTC)doesn't mean i'm very good at learning any language.
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Date: 2005-09-16 12:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-16 12:32 am (UTC)and thats not doing me much good yet.
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Date: 2005-09-16 12:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-16 01:24 am (UTC)i know how to swear and say some... various... phrases.
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Date: 2005-09-16 03:02 am (UTC)but i am not a native speaker, so DON'T get these words permanently tatooed on your body w/o checking with someone who knows for sure!!:)
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Date: 2005-09-16 04:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-16 04:32 am (UTC)Would you rather have someone tell you it's a bad idea BEFORE you get the words permanently etched into your skin, or have people insult your wrists (either to your face or behind your back) AFTER the fact?
If you think I'm insulting you, then get over it. You posted something on this community asking for opinions on "how would [having right and wrong tattooed on my wrists] look?" Did you *really* expect all of us to say, "Golly gee, that'd look really swell!" If you did think that, you're off your rocker. We can't even agree on grammar rules. By posting on here, you asked me (along with everyone else, of course) what I thought. And I think that those tattoos would look ridiculous.
Furthermore... You don't even SPEAK Russian. So how much sense would it make for you to have some language inked onto your body if you don't even understand it? (I feel the same way about having Chinese, etc. words for tatoos, too...) If that's how you feel you can honor Russian in the best way, then do it... But do realize that many native speakers will probably stare at your hands, and ask you, "WHY????"
And I hesitate to say this but... Russians rarely keep their opinions to themselves. So telling one to keep their negative opinions to his or herself will only make them think that you really have no idea what's going on.
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Date: 2005-09-16 04:34 am (UTC)Come to think of it, I've never heard of anyone having a tattoo on his or her wrists.
Better to be harsh than to have someone do something they'll regret later, right?
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Date: 2005-09-16 04:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-16 04:43 am (UTC)I didn't ask how it would LOOK. I asked how it SPELLED. If I wanted to ask someone what their opinion on it's appearance would be, I would ask people who appreciate body modification.
And as I mentioned above, I'm trying to learn. I'm having difficulty, so sue me. I'm not catching onto the language as easily as people have previously.
So your argument just became null and void.
I don't care about what other people think of me, I tend not to wallow in other people's opinions because I'm confident in myself enough not to care what people think. I've got tattoos already, and despite what people say or the looks they give me, I like them. I like having my nose pierced, and if someone is going to be superficial enough to judge my intellect or personality on them, they can.
Listen, sweetheart. I was born and raised Iranian and you think we keep our opinions to ourselves? You think we don't defend ourselves when someone tries to act like they're superior to us? Yeah, dream on.
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Date: 2005-09-16 04:47 am (UTC)Like I said, what I know is enough to appreciate the culture.
I've seen many wrist tattoos that have looked beautiful.
This is my planned area for the inking to be done, however above it there will be a white lilly also drawn, and the inking will be a lot more bold than the image.
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Date: 2005-09-16 04:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-16 03:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-16 03:35 pm (UTC)"Then, they may think you're strange, or that you don't know how to speak Russian." - again, why so?
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Date: 2005-09-16 04:05 pm (UTC)personally, if you're going to do lettering, i'd go with the arabic. it's prettier looking. russian lettering may just look awkward as a tattoo, particularly in that area.
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Date: 2005-09-16 07:58 pm (UTC)At least you're responsible enough to ask, as opposed to trusting a tattoo artist's translation. Tattoos will always be controversial, it's true, but it's definitely your right. I personally find INCESSANT USE of CAPS aesthetically displeasing, but I just don't use them in my posts. Except now. Во-о-от.
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Date: 2005-09-16 08:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-18 08:58 pm (UTC)Good luck!