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[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

For the number тысяча, would it still remain in its genitive form if preceeded by a number, say восемь, but the sentence itself would have the восемь in the dative?

Ex: Я завидую восми тысяче девушкам. (sorry for the randomness)

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[yers.livejournal.com]

Восьми тысячам девушек.

[constpd.livejournal.com]

И. Восемь тысяч девушек
Р. Восьми тысяч девушек
Д. Восьми тысячам девушек
В. Восемь тысяч девушек (always Nominative-like form)
Т. Восемью тысячами девушек
П. О восьми тысячах девушек

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Exactly.
It's quite complicated even for many native speakers.
Сегодня будут дарить цветы ста двадати восьми тысячам семистам тридцати восьми девушкам (they will give flowers to 128,738 girls today) -- I have re-read this phrase three times, but I still couldn't say if I wrote that right :)

[noser.livejournal.com]

Basically, the object is "8000" and "girls" additionally describe the object (8000 of whom? of girls). Therefore, both eight and thousand are in dative and girls are in Genitive.

[mipa.livejournal.com]

двадцати ;)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Right. Fat fingaz.

[ob-ivan.livejournal.com]

note that in declination above the word тысяча is in plural, unlike English, heh

[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

same if it was only тысяче девушек?

Also, from wolk_off's post, I'm imagining that once there are more numbers within the 1.000, that it changes to whatever case was already mentioned?

[noser.livejournal.com]

Same with тысяче, but not same if it's a thousand plus something.

восьми тысячам (dat) девушек (gen)
тысяче (dat) девушек (gen)
тысяче одной (dat) девушке (dat)
тысяче пятидесяти (dat) девушкам (dat)
тысяче ста (dat) девушкам (dat)
миллиону (dat) девушек (gen)

It depends on what number immediately precedes девушки. For numerals thousand, million and greater, девушки is not part of the object and are always in Genitive. For smaller numbers, they're part of the object and they change to whatever case the numeral is in. Yes, there is no logical explanation, and we all know this is screwed up. :)