[identity profile] taosu.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Thank you everybody very much for your support! I really appreciate it!

In the previous post I forgot to mention one fact. Hardcore criminials (зеки) don't use MAT because they have their own slang (феня) which is probably more complex than MAT itself. Sometimes people who are not familiar with феня can hardly understand what those criminals are speaking about. The usage of MAT in criminal society is considered as an ignorance of their language and laws so criminals don't like when somebody uses MAT in their presence. But let us return to the original topic.



(x) — this mark means that the word as wel as its derivatives is banned from printing. The words without that mark may be used in gutter press but they are also intolerable in literary language.


Basic words in literal sense

All other words and expressions of MAT have these words as their root, although their meaning may have no connection with the basic words. Arranged in alphabectical order.

блядь (x) — hooker, street-walker, prostitute

гандОн (x) — (distorted condom) condom

говнО — excrements, shit

дрочИть — verb for masturbation, to jerk off; the original ancient meaning was «to pamper smb», дрочиться — «to fool around»

ебАть (x) — to fuck (about a man)

ебАться (x) с кем-либо — to have sex

жОпа — 1. ass, buttocks 2. asshole

залУпа (x) — head of penis (I don't know the medical term for this)

мандА (x) — (obsolete) vagina

мудАк — idiot; the original ancient meaning was «a man with big balls»

мУди (мУде) — (obsolete) testicles, balls

пиздА (x) — vagina

пИдор, педрИла (x) — (distorted педераст) gay, fagot

пидорАс (x) — (distorted педераст) 1. gay, fagot 2. idiot

срать — to defecate

ссать — to urinate

хер — a bit obsolete word which has the same meaning and usage as хуй, but хер is much less rude

хуй (x) — penis

целка (x) — hymen



Basic words in figurative sense


бля, блядь (x) — 1. a parasite word that can be inserted anywhere in the sentence: Блять, мужики! Кто бля последний за пивом? 2. exclamation that may mean depending on the situation: excitement, surprise, something very unpleasant: Бля! А ты как здесь оказался? or here: Блядь! Опять свет отключили!

гандОн (x) — bad man, rascal

говнО — poor thing, crap, something of low quality (about an item)

дрочИть — to perform some long, intensive, repeated action: to train smb, to use small device (which may lead to breakage) etc. В армии нас хорошо дрочили. or Хватить дрочить мой компьютер!

ебАть (x) — 1. to hit, to punch, to kick, to break, to crush, to destroy etc. note that this word refers to the process, not the result: Меня ебали два хулигана. 2. to concern: Не ебёт! — I don't fucking worry about this. 3. to know, used only in this phrase: А я ебу? — Why am I supposed to know?

ебАться (x) to work hard, to have difficulties with something: Я всю ночь ебался с этим заданием по математике, но так ничего и не смог решить.

жОпа — 1. dull suburbs, outskirts; the meaning is similar to this: Богом забытое место. 2. bad situations, problems: На экзамене была полная жопа. 3. the end of smth (in negative meaning): Телевизор сломался, ему настала жопа.

залУпа (x) — something little and spherical, little device or its part

пиздА (x) — 1. woman, bitch 2. very bad situation: Всё, ребята, теперь нам точно пизда. 3. the end of smth (in negative meaning): Телевизору пизда.

срать — to spoil, to do minor but unpleasant harm

ссать — to be afraid, to fear: Не ссы! — C'mon, don't be a coward!

хер — a bit obsolete word which has the same meaning and usage as хуй, but хер is much less rude

хуй (x) — 1. man 2. used to amplify the meaning of denial, negation or as a substitution to words «не», «нет», «ничего»: Хуй пришёл = Не пришёл (т.к. не хотел приходить). Хуй тебе! = Ничего тебе не дам.

цЕлка (x) — 1. virgin 2. coward, indecisive person



Next time: MAT part 2: Derivatives.
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Date: 2005-05-17 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paul-s.livejournal.com
They asked you to cut it so do it quickly before your (interesting) discussion gets cut short.

Date: 2005-05-17 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Either you apply lj-cut to it (after the horizontal line) within next 10 minites, or... well, you've been warned already.

Date: 2005-05-17 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] payalnik.livejournal.com
http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Russian.1.html

Date: 2005-05-17 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asholiee.livejournal.com
haha wow those are great! Thanks for posting. It looks like such a hard language to learn :-/

Date: 2005-05-17 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Remember that at least one of the community's maintainers keeps two eyes on this. Well, I've already explained what I felt towards this topic.

Date: 2005-05-17 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifetraveller.livejournal.com
first of all, i'm native speaker and i know that working language is english here, but...
Пишу из-под стола... Часть этого поста была для меня открытием

!!!next, (OMG) хер is as rude as хуй

and finally, remember the joke? "Одень на х*й шапку, а то уши замерзнут"...)

Date: 2005-05-17 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mm-kalkin.livejournal.com
Well... Such a structurized approach to "мат" seems to give me some more insight into it, even though I am a native Russian speaker.
Keep up the good work! :)

Date: 2005-05-17 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gera.livejournal.com
Хер is not only much more acceptable, but is actually a euphemism for хуй.
Хер is what the corresponding letter (х) of the Russain alphabet used to be called.
So people were naming the first letter instead of the forbidden word.

Date: 2005-05-17 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
The primary meaning of г**дон is "a condom." You'd be surprised, but on the turn of 19/20 centuries this word has been used in print (though its second letter was О at that time) - for example, in the advertising of early French-made condoms which were introduced to Russian market at that time (though it was semi-legal, since the Russian Orthodox Church did not approve its use -- actually, still doesn't -- and ROC was the part of the Empire rule at that time.)

P.S.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Г**дон and презерватив were two different words then, meaning two different types of condoms.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kav2k.livejournal.com
Are you REALLY sure about first figurative meaning of пизда? Never heard it used like this..

Date: 2005-05-17 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, I did.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kav2k.livejournal.com
Maybe it is better to mention here "иди в п**ду" ~= "fuck off"?

P.S.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Did you know that old (1940s, the most probably) criminal song - "Once upon a time, in Rostov-on-Don" ("Это было в старину, да в Ростове-на-Дону...")? There are those lines:
Какой-то стрелочник, п**да,
Остановил все поезда
Сигналом, сигналом, б**дь, сигналом,
И вот шагаю я вперед,
А котелок по ж*пе бьёт,
По шпалам, по шпалам, б**дь, по шпалам.

(Some railway pointsman, BAD MAN,
stopped all trains
by a signal, by a signal, f***, by a signal,
And so I walk on and on,
and my cauldron [that hangs from the escaped criminal's belt behind his back] slaps my ass,
[I walk] the railroad track, the railroad track, f***, the railroad track.)

Date: 2005-05-17 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Seconded.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kutsuwamushi.livejournal.com
I hope you're not too offended. I think it's very interesting, in a "this is useful to know, even though I'm never going to use it myself" sort of way.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
I have to explain. I'm neither a saint nor a monk. I have served in the [then]Soviet military, and I have played in a rock group after this (for 10 years.) Out of social mimicry, in both those cases, I have used that language FAR more than I would like. I'm not offended, I just can't stand unnecessary use of that language any more.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] l-strange.livejournal.com
педераст sounded a little to... English (actually Latin/Greek), so a bit of digging and I find: http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/english/pe/pederast.html

Not exactly an unexcepted answer, but still interesting.

Date: 2005-05-17 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] russian-bob.livejournal.com
Even I did not used this language extensively, I feel the same about it.
When (rarely) Americans ask me about Russian coarse words, I:
1. Make certain conclusions about their cultural level and personality,
2. Offer them for starters more useful Russian word like спасибо and пожалуйста.

I think this "enrichment" of the Russian language is for people proficient enough to talk directly on Russian chats, etc. and pick it up from there.

PS. It's funny, but English coarse words do not sound as bad to me as the Russian do.

Date: 2005-05-17 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apollotiger.livejournal.com
pederast's an English word; I've lectured people many times on the difference between a pederast and a pedophile. ;)
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