A small question (hopefully)...

[kasak.livejournal.com]

I realize this has been brought up in the past in this community, but for some reason, the memories feature of LiveJournal isn't working, and I'd rather like an answer to this question:

What is the IPA symbol for the Russian sound "ы"?

I've often seen it compared to similar sounds in Turkish and Romanian, but I've yet to see a satisfactory answer to my question. What class of vowel would it be? Any help (or re-direction to previous discussions on this topic) would be greatly appreciated.

Спасибо.

Comments

[constpd.livejournal.com]

As far as I know, that would be [ı], i.e. an i without a dot

[ekeme-ndiba.livejournal.com]

Nope, dotless [ɪ] (in fact, its proper name is "dotless capital i") goes for English closed-syllable "i", Ukrainian "и" or Russian unstressed-reduced "и","е" and "я". IPA symbol for "ы" is i with stroke, [i].

[squodge.livejournal.com]

Nope, it isn't i without a dot. It's i with a line through it.

~ squodge ~

[moon-aka-sun.livejournal.com]

IPA (http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/IPA/ipa.html) --> chart (http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/IPA/ipachart.html) --> Vowels (http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/IPA/vowels.html)
It's there.

Also it sounds like on this map (http://www.paulmeier.com/ipa/charts.html).

[beowabbit]

Actually, ɨ (i-with-bar) is more centralized than ɯ (upside-down m). Russian ы is the more central sound, although I’ve seen it transcribed ɯ (upside-down m) for typographic convenience.

I think Turkish ı (dotless i) is the further-back ɯ (upside-down m) sound, which is just a completely unrounded u sound. But I don’t know Turkish, so I might be wrong.

[-alex-dee-.livejournal.com]

try this ;)

http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%2B%E7%E2%F3%EA+%2B%FB&stype=www