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learn_russianWell now that we're getting into the holiday spirit, I was wondering if anyone can tell me about the Russian version of a Christmas icon. I believe it was something Мороз, but I forgot by now. What's the story behind him?
And do Russians have a Halloween?
And do Russians have a Halloween?
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Date: 2004-11-20 02:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-20 05:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-21 11:30 am (UTC)And since this year as I know we are going to celebrate Xmas twice (24-25 and 6-7)
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Date: 2004-11-21 12:17 pm (UTC)Why do YOU celebrate it twice?
As far as I know Russia is still keeping Julius (not Gregorian) calendar. Xmas is a religious holiday and Russian orthodox is the predominant religion!
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Date: 2004-11-22 09:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-22 11:08 am (UTC)If Russian holidays start before 25th, it does not mean that we are going to celebrate Catholic Xmas (by the way, Protestants also celebrate Xmas on the 25th!), it just means that we have a prolonged winter holiday. I guess the government did not make it on the 6-7th of January because it wanted Russia to be in parallel with European countries and therefore to be consistent with international bussiness.
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Date: 2004-11-23 12:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-23 01:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-24 08:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-27 07:44 pm (UTC)но все-таки интересно к каким религиям приндлежат твои родители, и почему из их принадлежности к разным религиям следует, что ты атеистка. я это спрашиваю не из-за желания вступить в спор, я просто интересуюсь подобными семьями.
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Date: 2004-11-28 09:18 am (UTC)Мама татарка. Папа русский. Мусульманка и христианин соответственно, хотя они не особо религиозны. Я и так взяла национальность русская (с маминой подачи), мусульманство из всех религий мне наиболее неприятно, а полностью брать все "от отца" не хочу. Во всем люблю золотую середину.
А что интересного?? В конце концов, в Бога модно верить независимо от религии - мой атеизм весьма условен. А поспорить я могу. На русском это проще и удобнее (см. выше:о)).
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Date: 2004-11-30 09:40 am (UTC)certainly, not (since 1917). only Russian orthodox church.
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Date: 2004-11-21 03:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-21 03:19 pm (UTC)And on a side note, they don't celebrate Halloween, but the day after, November 1st, which is All Saints' Day.
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Date: 2004-11-21 10:46 pm (UTC)All the other typical icons like Grandfather Frost (Дед Мороз, which is approximately equal to your Santa Claus) and Christmas Tree (Рождественская ёлка) perform in Russia a sort of double-purpose function.
On the one hand, since the times the USSR, when Christmas was prohibited and when the traditional Christmas Tree was even renamed New Year Tree (Новогодняя ёлка), they have been used as the New Year's symbols.
On the other hand, now, Christmas has come back, and for many Russian Orthodox believers it’s become a more important and expected feast than the New Year. Besides, many of them keep the Christmas fast (the Advent), and, since our New Year’s Day falls on the fast time, they try to celebrate New Year’s Eve in a modest way in order to have a real great celebration on Christmas. Especially for children: with ёлка, Дед Мороз, Снегурочка, lots of gifts and so on.
I think, it also would be an interest for Russian learning people to know that a party organized for children on New Year or Christmas is called here simply «ёлка».
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As for Halloween, somebody try here to celebrate this West version of All Saints' day (as far as I can see it doesn't now concern with any saints at all), which is, in my and not only my opinion, is perfectly an inappropriate feast for Russians. Certainly, we have the real All Saints’ day, it is the first Sunday after the Whitsun (the second Sunday is the Day of all the Russian Saints).
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Date: 2004-11-23 09:19 am (UTC)Halloween in Sumy Ukraine...
Date: 2004-11-26 10:36 pm (UTC)