I love you.

Aug. 8th, 2004 02:52 pm
[identity profile] lizinka.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
English: I love you.
My attempt: Я любόвь ты.
Web translator: Я люблю Вас.

Who's right? Me or the computer?

Thanks!
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Date: 2004-08-08 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michellio.livejournal.com
You would use тебя instead of ты: Я тебя люблю.

Date: 2004-08-08 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lexazloy.livejournal.com
True: Я люблю Вас. Я люблю тебя. etc.

False: Я любόвь ты.

Date: 2004-08-08 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superslayer18.livejournal.com
Well they are both wrong. Lubov is the noun, not the verb. The verb is Lubit' (sorry for lack of cyrillic). Conjugated to Ya, lubit' becomes Lyublyu (though the yu is usually just pronounced as a u when spoken quickly).

As far as Vas vs. Tiy, they are both kinda wrong. Vas is the accusitive form of Viy, but if you were telling someone you loved them, why would you say "you" in its formal form? (unless you were speaking to a group of people, in which case vas woudl be correct). Tiy is the nominative form, and you need accusative because you are performing the verb (love) on "you" (tiy). The accusative is Tibya.

It should read "Ya lublu tibya" (я люблю тебя) (lack of previous cyrillic cuz im a lazy ass lol)

Date: 2004-08-08 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superslayer18.livejournal.com
btw, ya lublu tibya can also be said ya tibya lublu, since it is obvious who the subject is and who the object is.

Date: 2004-08-08 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michellio.livejournal.com
You seem really cool, I like reading your posts in this community =) Is it okay if I add you to my friends list?? =)))

Date: 2004-08-08 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karashi.livejournal.com
You can switch the order around any way you want, but the emphasis will change ever-so-slightly.

Date: 2004-08-08 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karashi.livejournal.com
I was just wondering where the little dot over the "o" came from. Which translator did you use?

Date: 2004-08-08 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superslayer18.livejournal.com
Yea. It also depends on the tone you take when you say it and what word you emphasize in your speech (ya TIBYA lublu (I love YOU) vs ya tibya LUBLU (I LOVE you))

Date: 2004-08-08 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superslayer18.livejournal.com
Well its just as correct to say it with that syntax. Once you understand the cases and all that, you will see that Russian sentense stucture is sooooo much more flexible than english sentence stucture.

Date: 2004-08-08 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vyacheslav.livejournal.com
Was the dot over the o to indicate stress? Some books do that.

Date: 2004-08-08 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vyacheslav.livejournal.com
The reason it says вас is that's the default. Any time you translate you on a translator it will give you the formal version, afaik.

Date: 2004-08-08 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-evengar540.livejournal.com
Well, you would've said "Я люблю вас" if you lived like a hunder years ago... :-)

Date: 2004-08-08 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karashi.livejournal.com
I guess SVO would be the most basic, but you can mess with it to change the emphasis.

Я съела яблоко. (I ate the apple. I guess you could say this emphasises that I, not John, Tim, or Chipaev ate the apple, but you'd need the context to determine that nuance. It could also be a plain answer to "What did you do?")
Cъела я яблоко. (I ATE the apple. This emphasizes what I did to the apple - O ate it, I did not hammer it to pieces, chop it with a chainsaw, or throw it down a well.)
Яблоко я съела. (I ate the APPLE. This emphasises that I ate the APPLE, not the pear, banana, or grapefruit.)

Date: 2004-08-08 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-evengar540.livejournal.com
hunder - hundred, of course
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