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[forestelven.livejournal.com]

hello i am learning russian and i have a few pronounciation questions

i see this "ий" at the end of many words how is it pronounced?
like ee-ih .....

and how is эдравствуйте pronounced ive seen mixed ways
one said zdrast-vooit-ye others said different

спасибо

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[dermfitz.livejournal.com]

"ий" is normally just pronounced "ee", in my experience, maybe a tad longer than "и", but nothing significant, and definitely not "ee-ee".

As for здравствуйте, I always taught my students to say "Does your ass fit you" very fast :)

Ignore the first в in the word anyway. No-one says it.

[tightlink.livejournal.com]

How about "ee-y"? I totally disagree with the "ee" version. For example,

thin = тонкий = tohnkeey

[noser.livejournal.com]

If you can believe a native speaker, it is always pronounced literally: "и-й" (ee-y), maybe only slightly reduced. Except a few known exceptions, everything is pronounced strictly according to how it's written, using strict rules described in any book on Russian, provided that you know where the stress falls.

здрAвствуйте (zdrAstvooyt'i) is sometimes shortened to здрAстe (zdrAst'i). That one is informal, though.

[superslayer18.livejournal.com]

1) just lengthen the EE sound a little bit

2) I've found it to be like (zdrast-voo-tye)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Not correct. Unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, it's enough to sound understandable, but it's not CORRECT. noser's comment is quite, er, comprehensive.

[forestelven.livejournal.com]

большое срасибо to all

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

In Russian, never use P instead of П between С and А, because this converts your word into something connected with defecation :)

[welgar.livejournal.com]

I've heard "ий" and "ый" are some of the toughest Russian sounds for non-native speakers. However, there is nothing special about themselves, they are just what they look like.

BTW, your spelling of "здравствуйте" is a bit incorrect. The first letter is З, not Э.

[a-sokolov1960.livejournal.com]

[ий] must be easy. There are both sounds in English - [i] and [j], you just need to connect them, making [ij]

[ый] must be much more difficult, because there is no [ы] sound in English. Teeth close, tongue back, listen to recording and imitate - that's all advice.

[rimokon.livejournal.com]

[ий] must be easy. There are both sounds in English - [i] and [j], you just need to connect them, making [ij]

What? [j]? I never understood why people said [й] sounds like [j]; I think the sound is a lot more like [y], like in "boy".

[a-sokolov1960.livejournal.com]

I used an IPA transcription. In that system 'boy' transcription is [boi], where [oi] is a diphthong. There is no [j] in 'boy'. 'You' sounds [ju:], so Russian [j] sounds much like first sound in 'you'.

[wolfie-18.livejournal.com]

Speaking of transcription/transliteration, is there ever any definite, written on stone rule of how to transliterate? I remember starting Russian and looking through books where молоко was transliterated as "malakO" or "molokO," which kinda doesn't make any sense... and as for пожалуйста, I saw a book that had mentioned it was pronouned "pazhAloeesta" and it was just... well, it was just raunchy, LoL. Not to mention the different things done with -ь endings, what's up with that (')?

[med99.livejournal.com]

there are no definite transliteration rules and that's a problem.