[identity profile] joshthewriter.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] learn_russian
Всем привет!
I am looking for some Russian poetry to read.  I have things like Pushkin and Nikitin, and lighter fare as such already, but I'm looking for darker poets similar to Leonard Cohen or Edgar Allen Poe, who deal in subjects like death and despair and the tragedies of life.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Хм ?

Date: 2011-04-04 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zellily.livejournal.com
Безобразно труп ужасный
Посинел и весь распух.
Горемыка ли несчастный
Погубил свой грешный дух
Рыболов ли взят волнами
Али хмельный молодец
Аль ограбленный ворами
Недогадливый купец?

Date: 2011-04-04 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iinga.livejournal.com
Try Lermontov (Михаил Лермонтов),
Blok (Александр Блок)
Brodsky (Иосиф Бродский)

Date: 2011-04-04 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoa-mel-gustar.livejournal.com
Лермонтов. Бальмонт. Maybe Хармс. Not all of their poems, but some of them... I can't remember Russian poets who wrote only or mainly dark poetry... Maybe some modern poets? Oh, yeah, try Илья Кормильцев!

Date: 2011-04-04 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] master-yourself.livejournal.com
http://magister.msk.ru/library/poetry/barkov01.htm

Date: 2011-04-04 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crystal-cold.livejournal.com
I suggest Brusov (Брюсов Валерий).

Date: 2011-04-04 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sart2003.livejournal.com
Also you can try some dark lyrics - Sergey Kalugin (Сергей Калугин) for example

Анна Ахматова

Date: 2011-04-04 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acuzena.livejournal.com
Песня последней встречи

Так беспомощно грудь холодела,
Но шаги мои были легки.
Я на правую руку надела
Перчатку с левой руки.

Показалось, что много ступеней,
А я знала - их только три!
Между кленов шепот осенний
Попросил: "Со мною умри!

Я обманут моей унылой,
Переменчивой, злой судьбой".
Я ответила: "Милый, милый!
И я тоже. Умру с тобой…"

Это песня последней встречи.
Я взглянула на темный дом.
Только в спальне горели свечи
Равнодушно-желтым огнем.

Date: 2011-04-04 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
And you obviously thought that was really funny, did you?

Date: 2011-04-04 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] master-yourself.livejournal.com
This is a classical example of a poetry about a life tragedy. Why not?

Date: 2011-04-04 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
A classical example of life tragedy poetry would be Mikhalkov's Uncle Styopa, according to this sort of logic.

Date: 2011-04-04 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-dy-ashley.livejournal.com
Try the so-called Silver Age (roughly, the beginning of the XXth century). Most commentators have suggested these poets, actually (Blok, Akhmatova, Balmont, Bryusov), and if you want more names, try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Age_of_Russian_Poetry
or this: http://www.russia-ic.com/culture_art/literature/838/.

Date: 2011-04-04 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trilbyhat.livejournal.com
I would suggest Pasternak, because of his vocabulary and syntax which is very modern and straightforward.
And Zabolotsky to see the worst of it :) (rather than Kharms)

darker?

Date: 2011-04-04 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avla.livejournal.com
Я спросил электрика Петрова:
— Для чего ты намотал на шею провод?
Ничего Петров не отвечает,
Только тихо ботами качает.

(Олег Григорьев)

Date: 2011-04-04 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odpaam.livejournal.com
Try Михаил Щербаков. But his lyrics is a bit complicated.

Date: 2011-04-04 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icamel.livejournal.com
Arseny Tarkovsky

Немецкий автоматчик подстрелит на дороге,
Осколком ли фугаски перешибут мне ноги,

В живот ли пулю влепит эсесовец-мальчишка,
Но все равно мне будет на этом фронте крышка.

И буду я разутый, без имени и славы
Замерзшими глазами смотреть на снег кровавый.

Date: 2011-04-04 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenpresence.livejournal.com
Anna Ahmatova (Анна Ахматова), Boris Pasternak (Борис Пастернак), Alexander Blok (Александр Блок)

Date: 2011-04-04 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moskvitina.livejournal.com
Егор Летов (Yegor Letov) will suit you perfectly I think. :)

Something like that:

Глупый мотылёк
Догорал на свечке
Жаркий уголёк
Дымные колечки
Звёздочка упала в лужу у крыльца...
Отряд не заметил потери бойца

Мёртвый не воскрес
Хворый не загнулся
Зрячий не ослеп
Спящий не проснулся
Весело стучали храбрые сердца...
Отряд не заметил потери бойца

Не было родней
Не было красивей
Не было больней
Не было счастливей
Не было начала, не было конца...
Отряд не заметил потери бойца

1990

Date: 2011-04-04 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmeloman.livejournal.com
Esenin, Mayakovsky

Date: 2011-04-04 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burrru.livejournal.com
How fluent is your Russian?

Date: 2011-04-04 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trankov.livejournal.com
хаахахаха

Date: 2011-04-04 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trankov.livejournal.com
The comments are demonstration of stupidness. People who know the language absolutely retarded in history of literature.

So, if you interested in "dark poets", of course, you have to read early russian modernists (beginning of 20th century), they were inspired by French decadents such as Mallarmé or Rimbaund and were concentrated on infernal themes and death side of reality. The brightest examples are Gippius, Merezhkovsky, Sologoub and others.

Also, our classic and modern classic poets who wrote the philosophic lyric poetry has these themes fragmentally and particularly too, but if you interested in dark poetry precisely, then, of course, your choice is russian decadance.

Date: 2011-04-04 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carska-doch.livejournal.com
согласна с последним комментарием - стеб и демонстрация собственной тупости. Ему не хочется читать про трупы

Date: 2011-04-04 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nic102.livejournal.com
The Silver Age.

Also Brodskiy. Not so much dark but deep.

Date: 2011-04-04 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riegel.livejournal.com
Brodsky is sometimes dark, too dark even, if you ask me)
and Mandelshtam!

Date: 2011-04-05 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] w-wolfram.livejournal.com
Do you mean dead poets? Gumilev - half Poe, half Kipling, in Russian:)
If no then you can find a lot of that stuff among youngsters' poetry - not mentioning that it will be a big pile of crap. With rare exceptions, though:)
Here, for example. Ivan Kozlov (http://magazines.russ.ru/znamia/2011/4/ko3.html) - I believe his poems are very close to what you have requested. Marianna Geide (book in .pdf) (http://polutona.ru/books/geide_sm.pdf) - not so close, but - mystical reverse side of commonnes, etc., you know:)
Linor Goralik (http://linorg.ru/column.html) - the same atrocity of everyday living, shadow of raven's (I mean that raven, of course) wings on the brow of more-than-ordinary human beeng - a man of the middle class, for example.

Well, my poor English ends here:)
Hope you'll enjoy with those three I listed. Sorry for pronounce anyway)

Date: 2011-04-05 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] old-radist.livejournal.com
Why it should be a tragedy? He didn't die!

Date: 2011-04-05 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] old-radist.livejournal.com
>> because I want to a) get some exposure to culture

Hm... I'm afraid, darker poets like Leonard Cohen or Edgar Allen Poe are not so typical for the russian culture.

Date: 2011-04-05 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
He was Stalin's militia officer. Isn't that a tragedy in itself?

Date: 2011-04-05 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
That isn't poetry. Bulgakov was a prose writer, not a poet.

Date: 2011-04-05 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolk-off.livejournal.com
Thanks for your contribution. However, the working language in this community is English.

Date: 2011-04-05 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carska-doch.livejournal.com
Ok, thanks

Date: 2011-04-05 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] old-radist.livejournal.com
He was folk's militia officer.
He has defended Leningrad by marine and was wounded a little.
He was even a fireman.

That's a good life!

Date: 2011-04-07 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arina-rus.livejournal.com
Try to read some of Edward Asadov. His language is quite clear as he lived in the 20th century. I love much some of his verses
Good luck!

Date: 2011-04-21 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocotiger.livejournal.com
Юрий Кузнецов | Yury Kuznetsov

Возвращение

Шёл отец, шёл отец невредим
Через минное поле.
Превратился в клубящийся дым -
Ни могилы, ни боли.

Мама, мама, война не вернёт…
Не гляди на дорогу.
Столб крутящейся пыли идёт
Через поле к порогу.

Словно машет из пыли рука,
Светят очи живые.
Шевелятся открытки на дне сундука -
Фронтовые.

Всякий раз, когда мать его ждёт, -
Через поле и пашню
Столб крутящейся пыли бредёт
Одинокий и страшный.

1972

http://www.clubochek.ru/lib.php?rat=21&dog=1064

Date: 2011-05-10 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritrc.livejournal.com
Letov was very primitive and secondary. He was a famous Russian punk musician, but calling him a poet is a big mistake.

As to the source for the borrowed "отряд не заметил потери бойца", I would recommend Mikhail Svetlov (Михаил Светлов).
Specifically, this sentence was taken from his poem "Grenada" (Гренада).

Date: 2011-05-10 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritrc.livejournal.com
Why? The darkness of Russian silver age poets has a different nature, but it's still darkness.
Blok is pretty dark and depressive, as well as Akhmatova.
I would also recommend Voloshin (Максимилиан Волошин). Not too dark, but pretty depressive as all the silver age poets.

Date: 2011-05-27 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khanuka.livejournal.com
Hi. Try Vladislav Khodasevich: http://www.hodasevich.su/ and Innnokenty Annensky: http://www.litera.ru/stixiya/authors/annenskij.html
Amazing poetry, I'm sure you'll like it.

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