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[ostanine.livejournal.com]

I want to use "неисправным механизмом побег" as a title.
The English I used in google translate is "malfunctioning escape mechanism".
Can anyone tell me if it's correct?

Thank you! :)

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[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

It is incorrect.

What you wrote literally means, "by a malfunctioning mechanism, an escape."

[ostanine.livejournal.com]

Could you please help me write it in the proper way?

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

I do not really understand what you are intended to write, to begin with. Could you explain?

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Let's put is this way: what is an escape mechanism?

[ostanine.livejournal.com]

An escape mechanism is a mental process that enables a person
to avoid reality...like...the things that he/she is afraid of or the things
that make life unpleasant.

[ostanine.livejournal.com]

...so we don't escape physically. Our mind escapes.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

I'm afraid there is no direct and/or commonly understandable equivalent in Russian. You shoud consult Russian psychologists (if only we have them here in the community) -- they must have a term for that.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

There's a calque word in Russian, эскапизм -- it describes the process you're speaking about. But I have no idea how to add the idea of malfunction to it. Неработающий эскапизм? Sounds awkward. My sense of style, if there's any, fails me just now.

[ars-longa.livejournal.com]

The proper term for that would be эскапизм. And he whole thing you wrote just doesn't translate well to Russian.

[pinky-the-cow.livejournal.com]

After seeing the wolk_off thread so far I'd propose "Сбоящий отрыв от реальности".

But that may be quite not the best option. Is it, perhaps, important to keep some wordplay that makes psychological meaning become a suggested allusion, hidden beneath a seemingly technological expression?

[colonelrabin.livejournal.com]

Probably "сбой в эскапизме", "когда эскапизм не срабатывает"?

[ostanine.livejournal.com]

Yes...I think I'm just making our lives difficult here. I am Greek but that doesn't help very much when I
keep translating from Greek to English and then trying to find answers in Russian..hehe...the problem is
I don't know any online community where people speak Greek and Russian.

[ostanine.livejournal.com]

How about the word "flight"? Is there an equivalent for that? By flight I mean the action of fleeing.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

There is no direct translation, alas. We can produce a whole bunch of those awkward sencences, but they don't make much sense in Russian anyway.

[merry1978.livejournal.com]

There is a psychology term in Russian for "escape mechanism" - "механизм ухода от реальности". It is obviously a calque, but it is more or less clear and precise. "Эскапизм" is not a psychology, but a sociology term, so it is not quite right here. It refers to a type of conscious choice, not psychological mechanism.

So "malfunctioning escape mechanism" would be "сбой механизма ухода от реальности", or it may be better to use a plural form here, as it is common in Russian scientific language: "Сбои механизма ухода от реальности".

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

>I don't know any online community where people speak Greek and Russian.

Mmmmmm... it must be some Orthodox Theology community! Though the Greek they would speak is a bit far from modern Greek :)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Yes, it's closer, you're right. But sounds terrible anyway, doesn't it? Can you imagine, say, a music album titled "Сбои механизма ухода от реальности"? Must contain some REALLY weird music, I'm afraid :)

[pigmeich.livejournal.com]

I depends on the genre. So it's all right if used in professional subject. In fiction, however, it's better to invent new title.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Hey! There is ru_greece, titled "Russians in Greece," and greece_ru, and even ru_ellinist which is "dedicated to Greek language" (they have more than 600 members!)...

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

Побег (noun, masculine, stress on 2nd syllable.)

[colonelrabin.livejournal.com]

Well, this is actually a perfect case where we've got no possibility for a literal translation, and the ABC of a translator's work is to reflect the sense in a correct form for the language to translate to. So, I don't see why these sentences would not work. And about making sense - I'm afraid the whole psychology "science" suffers under a bit of lack of the latter.

[muhwase.livejournal.com]

why? I can easily imagine a book titled "Сбои механизма ухода от реальности", or "Сбои в механизме ухода от реальности", or "Нарушения в механизме ухода от реальности" , or "Нарушения эскапизма", or... etc.

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

This last sentence of yours I would subscribe to with my both hands, legs etc. In saecula saeculorum, amen! :)

[wolk-off.livejournal.com]

A book, yes. Especially if it's another "psychology" speculation. Anything else? (the original poster did not specify just what kind of a title he was trying to produce.) I came up with the idea of a music albut title -- and I'd admit that I could only imagine a really nasty music under such title :))

:)

[colonelrabin.livejournal.com]

Amen!

[ostanine.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much! :)

[ostanine.livejournal.com]

...hehehe...:)
It's for a photograph of a person who looks (in my opinion) that they would like to leave
but for some reason they don't.

[muhwase.livejournal.com]

ok then you can return to your original idea, неисправный механизм бегства.

[cheaffa.livejournal.com]

I am a native speaker, but I dont understand what it means... It's very specifical author's idea.

[towarysc.livejournal.com]

I read this as 'Неисправным механизмом побёг'. Very poetic metaphor, I thought;)
On the topic, if you are going to use the title for general audience (e.g. for a music album as supposed above) I don't think you should use 'escape mechanism' at all as the term doesn't seem to be familiar for a common Russian speaker (and the translation is quite cumbersome as you can see).

[towarysc.livejournal.com]

Ah, a photo. Sorry, missed that.
Well, then I'd suggest something like "Механизм бегства сломался". But again, a casual man will never understand what does "механизм бегства" mean, and the trope won't work. I still think that you should just think of something else.